Hey,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Niels Breet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:niels@maemo.org">niels@maemo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Mon, October 19, 2009 16:12, Attila Csipa wrote:<br>
> Foreword: I'm an extras-testing newbie, I went through<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing" target="_blank">http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing</a> and hoped to push a simple script<br>
> (called 'mirror') to regular users (=extras). I did extras(-devel) stuff<br>
> for Diablo, but had a few things that oops-ed me here, so I'd like some<br>
> clarifications so I can leave my current 'I are baboon' state.<br>
><br>
> a) what are the relations of extras-testing to nokia-applications<br>
> repositories ? My script depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra<br>
> which is there, and lcuk pointed out that it is listed to be missing<br>
> dependencies<br>
> (<a href="http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicat" target="_blank">http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicat</a><br>
> ions_explicit_armel/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra/0.10.15-git180-0maem<br>
> o8+0m5/ ). To add my confusion there are even packages there that have<br>
> 'missing<br>
> dependencies' that depend purely on libc6 (<br>
> <a href="http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicati" target="_blank">http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicati</a><br>
> ons_explicit_armel/libspeex1/1.2~rc1-1maemo7+0m5/ ). So who is depending<br>
> on what here and who is supposed to provide/promote what ?<br>
<br>
</div>Oops, this was a configuration mistake on my part. I didn't setup the<br>
links between the repositories for nokia-applications and device root<br>
filesystem.<br>
<br>
It should look a lot better for you now?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> b) if there were failed dependencies, how did my upload/promotion to<br>
> extras-testing go through ? Or does that 'missing' mean something else ?<br>
<br>
</div>This change was made last week, so that is when the issue was introduced.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> c) there is no 'add application' link on<br>
> <a href="https://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/" target="_blank">https://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/</a><br>
> and I can't select Maemo5 as the OS if try to add it from 'another' page<br>
> that has that link. Are apps going to be added automatically by the<br>
> promotion process, or do I need to apply/do something to get that option ?<br>
<br>
</div>Applications which manage to reach Extras through the QA testing process<br>
automatically get an entrance in Maemo5 Downloads.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> d) Is there a coordinated way of getting testers for karma to promote to<br>
> extras ? I made an announcement thread on talk, but wasn't quite clear<br>
> about whether the once-planned tester group exists, do they get notified<br>
> automatically, or do I need to do something extra to request evaluation,<br>
> the wiki didn't quite make that clear for me.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>This is where we need to work on. We have the basic technical framework in<br>
place, now the human part needs to be addressed. Testing of applications<br>
in the queue needs to be encouraged more. Maybe we can organize<br>
application test meetings, where a group of people come in and help<br>
testing applications.<br></blockquote><div><br>Liked the idea, I think I gonna give a try to a testing marathon :).<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>-- <br>Valério Valério<br>Maemo Community Council Chair<br><br><a href="http://www.valeriovalerio.org">http://www.valeriovalerio.org</a><br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Another problem we need to address is prevent that applications stay in<br>
the queue for too long without testing. I've proposed to create a group of<br>
well known and knowledgeable community members who can make an executive<br>
decision based on a strict list of technical requirements for a package.<br>
If X amount of them agree the app meets the criteria, promotion is<br>
unlocked for the developer.<br>
<br>
I would really like someone else to take up organizing the human part, so<br>
I can concentrate on the technical implementation of this all. There are<br>
only so many hours in a day :)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I'm sorry if this stuff has been addressed before, if it was, it slipped<br>
> under my radar and my google skills failed me. Hints, pointers welcome.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Attila<br>
<br>
</div><font color="#888888">--<br>
Niels Breet<br>
<a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> webmaster<br>
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