On 10/21/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nathan Anderson</b> <<a href="mailto:nathan@andersonsplace.net">nathan@andersonsplace.net</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Luca,</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span> You would already have to have the
keyboard open if you used Ctrl-S or Ctrl-Shift-F, Ctrl-F could be used for
Find. Ctrl-S could be Save. Using Ctrl-<key> is hazardous
since different apps have different requirements.
</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>You have a point here. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>My guesses for universal keys that all apps could
accept for full screen would be: (It would be good if we make it as
universal as possible so as not to confuse end users)</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Ctrl->Volume (Would possibly be used by a
music program to switch mp3's tracks playing)</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Ctrl->Camera (could be used by a camera app to do
something different (HDR?))</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Ctrl->Power (If Possible, this might
be imo the best one -- I can't think of any reason for any other program to
use as a hotkey)</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Ctrl->Space (I can't think of any reason a app
would need to map this as a "normal" hotkey either)</span></font></div></span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I think that both would do, but for the reason I stated before, I like Ctrl+Space the better.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span><div dir="ltr" align="left">
<font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Anything else on the keyboard (<a href="http://www.nokian900.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Nokia-N900-front-open-keyboard.jpg" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.nokian900.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Nokia-N900-front-open-keyboard.jpg</a>) would
be easily up for application control and I can't see how we could make is a
universal recommendation. </span></font></div></span></font></div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Nathan.</span></font></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Luca Donaggio [mailto:<a href="mailto:donaggio@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">donaggio@gmail.com</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nathan
Anderson<span class="q"><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">maemo-developers@maemo.org</a><br></span><b>Subject:</b> Re: Full
Screen Hotkey?<br></font><br></div><div><span class="e" id="q_12477cbec3719059_3">
<div></div>I think that any combination of CTRL+<hardware button of your
choice> would be a little awkward (CTRL is in the slideing keybord, other
buttons are on the sides of the device).<br>I would prefer an
all-with-the-keyboard combination.<br><br>Luca Donaggio<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Nathan Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nathan@andersonsplace.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nathan@andersonsplace.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br>Ctrl-f
is very commonly used as Find. Users are used to that. But
what<br>about something like Ctrl-Volume (up/down) key? Or Ctrl-Camera
Key. That<br>way you aren't actually "taking" overriding a existing
"used" key. And it<br>could be used by pretty much any program that
needed it w/o it being used<br>for some other
hotkey.<br><br>Nathan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:maemo-developers-bounces@maemo.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">maemo-developers-bounces@maemo.org</a><br>
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On Behalf Of Eero Tamminen<br>Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:21 AM<br>To:
ext ds<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">maemo-developers@maemo.org</a><br>Subject:
Re: Call for testers with N900 for vncviewer<br><br>Hi,<br><br>ext ds
wrote:<br>> Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2009, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Cornelius
Hald:<br>>> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:01 +0200, ds wrote:<br>>>>
I have no feeling for N900 at the moment. But yes, I have some<br>>>>
feature requests left on garage, and as there is not too much UI
it<br>>>> should not be a big deal:-)<br>>>><br>>>>
But first I want to have it running an the N900.<br>>> I got it working
now :) Attached is a screenshot (in case the list<br>>> allows
that).<br>><br>> Thanks, at least my copy allowed it!<br>>>
Getting the UI Fremantle conform should be straight forward, at
least<br>>> it looks like that to me. If you need help there, just tell
me.<br>>><br>> I got a message from maemo admin:<br>> After
disabling the toolbar and switching to fullscreen mode there<br>> seems to
be no way get out of full screen or getting the toolbar back.<br>><br>>
Can you confirm this? Is no Hardwarebutton bringing up the menu or<br>>
toggle full screen anymore?<br><br>Correct. I would suggest supporting
additional shortcut like Ctrl-f as<br>proposed in another
mail.<br><br><br> - Eero<br><br>PS. User can switch
to other apps by using the Ctrl-backspace shortcut for<br>the task switcher
(or by launching Camera app with the camera button or<br>closing the
application from the power menu "End task"
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<br></blockquote></div><br>Luca Donaggio<br>