Till,<br><br>It is obvious that your angst is against my thumbs-down to your app due to my perceived understanding of optification which is at odds with yours.<br><br>Nevertheless, resorting to epithets is just lame. If you have other gripes, mention specific cases where there has been gross lapse in testing that have violated the published guidelines. This will help in addressing the issues and misunderstandings. We are all in it to see maemo succeed.<br>
<br>I take testing seriously and do this as a way of giving back to the open-source community. your desire to make fixes quickly available to the users is understandable. The way you put things, it sounds like since the first time you didn't have any problems, why should you have them now. Well, I didn't test the app the first time and even if I did, it would have gotten the same thumbs-down. If there are more users who don't care, which actually happened with libzlibrary in Fbreader, the app will end up in Extras with the opt violation. Of course, your app is not large but who knows, in the future it might be. optification is good practice.<br>
<br>I am a developer too; but still on the maemo-developer learning curve. The experience with rating your app is not something I would consider a high-point of maemo.<br><br>Mustali<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@harbaum.org">lists@harbaum.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
<br>
it seems that some of the extras-testing testers are not really<br>
doing a good job. Thus it seems to happen every now and then that some<br>
app gets a thumbs down for things it shouldn't be getting a thumbs<br>
down for or where such a verdict is at least questionable.<br>
<br>
My proposal is simple: Let's setup some mailing list which<br>
only real developers are allowed to join (may just be everybody<br>
with a working app in any of the repositories). And once someone<br>
thinks to be the victim of a karma-whore he may ask for help on that<br>
list. If we have at least 10 people on such a list we can easily<br>
override any such thumb down. In such a case the developer would<br>
explain why he thinks the thumb down is not justified and if<br>
enough list members agree and help out the problem will be fixed.<br>
<br>
Does garage allow for invitation-only mailing lists?<br>
<br>
What do you think? I really think it's wrong that testers can stop<br>
bad developers, but that there's no way for developers to stop<br>
bad testers.<br>
<br>
Till<br>
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