Hey,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Sascha Mäkelä <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sascha.makela@gmail.com">sascha.makela@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes, I would definitely be in favour of a centralised donation system.<br>
However, instead of the suggested amount set by the author, why not<br>
have a general minimum amount (say like €1) accepted per app? Then the<br>
the user who wants to donate, would select the amount and the app(s).<br></blockquote><div><br>Seems a really good plan, I'm with Sascha here, we can agree in a minimum and eliminate one of the extra fields.<br><br>Best regards,<br>
<br>-- <br>Valério Valério<br><br><a href="http://www.valeriovalerio.org">http://www.valeriovalerio.org</a><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Thanks,<br>
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Sascha<br>
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 13:55, Andrew Flegg <<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> BACKGROUND<br>
> ~~~~~~~~~~<br>
> A number of articles recently have talked about Ovi Store as the only<br>
> "real" app store for Maemo; massively overlooking<br>
> <a href="http://maemo.org/downloads/" target="_blank">http://maemo.org/downloads/</a><br>
><br>
> Similarly, as Ovi takes off, it is interesting to think about how<br>
> micro-payments for ones software could make one a bit of money (100<br>
> users at $1 each is a nice present); but whilst still having our<br>
> software as open source. There've been suggestions in the past of a<br>
> "Donate" button on each project's website, but I suggest we thrash out<br>
> a scheme - and then implement - a consistent micro-donation system for<br>
> <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> REQUIREMENTS<br>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
> * User can make quick donations to apps they like.<br>
> * There is a suggested amount, set by the author, to indicate<br>
> that even small donations are appreciated.<br>
> * The button is in a consistent and logical location, with<br>
> the easiest place to put it on <a href="http://maemo.org/downloads/" target="_blank">maemo.org/downloads/</a> and<br>
> probably also <a href="http://maemo.org/packages/" target="_blank">maemo.org/packages/</a>.<br>
> * Developers can receive donations direct from the users, without<br>
> <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> taking a cut.<br>
><br>
><br>
> SPECIFICATION<br>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
> Two new debian/control fields would be introduced:<br>
><br>
> XB-Maemo-Suggested-Donation - amount, in dollars (or euros) which<br>
> would be shown on the button. If not present, no donations<br>
> are expected.<br>
><br>
> XB-Maemo-Donation-Recipient - email address to whom user will<br>
> be donating.<br>
><br>
> Downloads and Packages would be updated[1] to show a button at the<br>
> bottom right of the package description:<br>
><br>
> "Donate $2" (showing the amount from Maemo-Suggested-Donation)<br>
><br>
> ...with a small "what's this?" link underneath linking to a help page<br>
> explaining that it's entirely voluntary, <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> takes no cut and is<br>
> a direct donation, using PayPal, between you and the maintainer.<br>
><br>
> Clicking the button will use the PayPal API[2] to redirect the user to<br>
> a "$PACKAGE donation" page with the amount prefilled and the recipient<br>
> fixed.<br>
><br>
><br>
> NEXT STEPS<br>
> ~~~~~~~~~~<br>
> There are Brainstorm and Talk threads on this issue; so the<br>
> next-steps, as I see it are:<br>
><br>
> * Link up discussions from elseweb.<br>
> * Find a stakeholder (happy for it to be me)<br>
> * Come to a consensus on the technical implementation, and get signed off<br>
> by X-Fade.<br>
> * Develop the changes and submit to maemo2midgard.<br>
> * Test, deploy & use.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps this is an opportunity to use the project management approach<br>
> outlined by Stskeeps[3]?<br>
><br>
> Comments, as ever, very welcome.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=maemo2midgard" target="_blank">https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=maemo2midgard</a><br>
> [2] <a href="https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?&cmd=_render-content&content_ID=developer/e_howto_html_donation_buttons" target="_blank">https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?&cmd=_render-content&content_ID=developer/e_howto_html_donation_buttons</a><br>
> [3] <a href="http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41092" target="_blank">http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41092</a><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Andrew Flegg -- mailto:<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a> | <a href="http://www.bleb.org/" target="_blank">http://www.bleb.org/</a><br>
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