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<p>Yes, my understanding is indeed that repository is used for paid applications (weird as it sounds).
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<br>----- Original message -----
<br>> Hi Ville,
<br>>
<br>> I did that and this is the response I got:
<br>>
<br>> In fact, the issue is not we cannot install the missing libraries on our
<br>> own; it is that we cannot assume that end-users/consumers have this
<br>> knowledge to install the dependencies by themselves.
<br>>
<br>> Thus, the current workaround for this is to package the dependencies into
<br>> the app build so that end-users/consumers do not have to handle this
<br>> hassle.
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> Are you saying that Ovi Store is, after all, using a proper repository
<br>> even for paid apps? Could it be that all the people who know anything
<br>> about Maemo are currently on holidays and therefore I got this?
<br>>
<br>> Cheers,
<br>>
<br>> Sascha
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 16:54, Ville M. Vainio <<a href="mailto:vivainio@gmail.com">vivainio@gmail.com</a>>
<br>> wrote:
<br>>
<br>> > I believed this is a misunderstanding or bad test case on ovi QA side.
<br>> > They are trying dpkg -i to ensure dependencies on "clean" environment,
<br>> > without awareness that dependencies to nokia repositories are ok.
<br>> >
<br>> > Advice them of this.
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > ----- Original message -----
<br>> > > Hi Ville,
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Let me just copy and paste here a few emails I got from Publish To
<br>> > > Ovi Support:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > As a matter of fact, this app is failed in QA because of "feature of
<br>> > > application manager direct installing from deb file cause that
<br>> > > installing
<br>> >
<br>> > > will complain two dependence library: 'libqtm-bearer and
<br>> > > libqtm-systeminfo are missing.'", quoted from internal communication
<br>> > > with our back-end.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > The reason is that Nokia hasn't yet embedded Qt Mobility on N900.
<br>> > > Although it will happen soon, currently developers have to manually
<br>> > > package the Qt Mobility package with their apps.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > You may find the Qt Mobility package and its individual packages
<br>> > > here: <a href="http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/">http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/</a>.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Files ending with _armel.deb are those ones that should be
<br>> > > pre-installed on N900 devices, whereas _i386.deb ones are for PC
<br>> > > environment.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > To be specific, for your case, you should at least package the
<br>> > >
<br>> > <a href="http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/libqtm-bearer_1.0.0-maemo1+0m5_armel.deb">http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/libqtm-bearer_1.0.0-maemo1+0m5_armel.deb</a>
<br>> > > and
<br>> > > the
<br>> > >
<br>> > <a href="http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/libqtm-systeminfo_1.0.0-maemo1+0m5_armel.debinto">http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/libqtm-systeminfo_1.0.0-maemo1+0m5_armel.debinto</a>
<br>> > > your final build.
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > > And here is a other one:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > In fact, the issue is not we cannot install the missing libraries on
<br>> > > our own; it is that we cannot assume that end-users/consumers have
<br>> > > this knowledge to install the dependencies by themselves.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Thus, the current workaround for this is to package the dependencies
<br>> > > into
<br>> >
<br>> > > the app build so that end-users/consumers do not have to handle this
<br>> > > hassle.
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > > And here is the final one:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > You can always try to build the Qt Mobility source with your app. The
<br>> > > source package can be downloaded at
<br>> > >
<br>> > <a href="http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/qt-mobility_1.0.2-maemo1.tar.gz">http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/q/qt-mobility/qt-mobility_1.0.2-maemo1.tar.gz</a>;
<br>> >
<br>> > > or you can use apt-get source libqtm-bearer to acquire.
<br>> > >
<br>> > > I'm also working on possible other solutions. Packaging a deb file
<br>> > > into another looks like having some trouble currently. I'll let you
<br>> > > know if I've made any progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > > As you can see what I'm told by them, it seems that they are not
<br>> > > using a repository for paid apps. Do you have other information?
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Cheers,
<br>> > >
<br>> > > Sascha
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 16:16, Ville M. Vainio <<a href="mailto:vivainio@gmail.com">vivainio@gmail.com</a>>
<br>> > > wrote:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > > Well, that's certainly not the general understanding (inside
<br>> > > > Nokia) of how it should work. Do you care to elaborate so that we
<br>> > > > can escalate the issue (with the understanding that it's holiday
<br>> > > > period...)?
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Definitely qtmobility is to be usable for Ovi store applications,
<br>> > > > and same applies for all the other packages that can be downloaded
<br>> > > > from nokia repos. If this is not currently the case, the process
<br>> > > > is broken at the moment. You should not change your apps design
<br>> > > > because of this glitch.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > ----- Original message -----
<br>> > > > > Hi Ville,
<br>> > > > >
<br>> > > > > Yes, this is what I thought too, but apparently Ovi Store is NOT
<br>> > > > > using a repository for paid apps. So it simply using "dpgk" to
<br>> > > > > install the deb files and therefore it's not able to install
<br>> > > > > dependencies. It's frankly quite shocking, but this is the
<br>> > > > > situation.
<br>> >
<br>> > > > >
<br>> > > > > Cheers,
<br>> > > > >
<br>> > > > > Sascha
<br>> > > > >
<br>> > > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 15:54, Ville M. Vainio
<br>> > > > > <<a href="mailto:vivainio@gmail.com">vivainio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> > > > >
<br>> > > > > > Qt mobility is in official nokia repo (not extras). It's ok to
<br>> > > > > > depend on those packages when publishing at ovi store.
<br>> > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > ----- Original message -----
<br>> > > > > > > Hi,
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > After struggling for about a month with my app and the Ovi
<br>> > > > > > > Store QA, this is what I found out: apparently Ovi Store is
<br>> > > > > > > not using a
<br>> >
<br>> > > > > > > repository, at least for paid apps, and therefore cannot
<br>> > > > > > > install dependencies. However, at the same time their QA
<br>> > > > > > > team requires quite a few things when dealing with network
<br>> > > > > > > connectivity. Obviously these requirements are not published
<br>> > > > > > > anywhere, otherwise this would be much
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > > > > too easy!
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > Anyway, this is what I think they want:
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > 1. Detectect if the device is Offline and give appropriate
<br>> > > > > > > warning. 2. Detect if the device is connected and if not
<br>> > > > > > > establish the connection.
<br>> > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > 3. If the connection is set to manual, the app needs to give
<br>> > > > > > > the necessary prompt.
<br>> > > > > > > 4. If the connection is set to automatic, it should connect
<br>> > > > > > > without any prompt.
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > So these, I believe, are the requirements of the Ovi Store
<br>> > > > > > > QA regarding network connectivity. Now the question is how
<br>> > > > > > > can this be done without using Qt Mobility (or any other
<br>> > > > > > > library that is not included with PR1.2)? Is it even
<br>> > > > > > > possible?
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > It would be nice if there would be a Wiki page or something
<br>> > > > > > > where a sample code that would pass  Ovi Store's QA would be
<br>> > > > > > > available. I understands that most of the competing platforms
<br>> > > > > > > have these sample codes freely available, so to prevent the
<br>> > > > > > > need for devs to reinvent the wheel. It's about time Nokia
<br>> > > > > > > would have something similar. Currently it seems that while
<br>> > > > > > > Nokia is recommending Qt for everyone with great enthusiasm,
<br>> > > > > > > their QA team seems to be out of touch what is currently
<br>> > > > > > > possible to do with it and what not.
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > Cheers,
<br>> > > > > > >
<br>> > > > > > > Sascha
<br>> > > > > >
<br>> > > > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
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