[maemo-users] [maemo-users] 770 on the way

From: Paule Ecimovic paule at certrex.net
Date: Mon Dec 4 21:22:48 EET 2006
Hi, all

    This entire thread seems to be referring to the Nokia N770 as a phone, which it is certainly not unless one considers GoogleTalk a phone feature of the like of GSM and UMTS phones. The N770 is a pocket computer first and foremost. It does come from a company that, among other things, is well known for phones. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mathias Uebelacker 
  To: Jakub.Pavelek at nokia.com 
  Cc: maemo-users at maemo.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:24 PM
  Subject: Aw: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way

  there are several stores in germany which sell the device with contracts, expes. with upgrades that meens that the customers have a mobile and gget the device cheaper.
  ----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -----
  Von: <Jakub.Pavelek at nokia.com>
  An: <maemo-users at maemo.org>
  Gesendet: Mo.,  4. Dez. 2006 12:24:05 CET
  Betreff: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
  > That was sort of my *point* :-)
  > I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product
  > pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, 
  > interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades
  > that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market
  > of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, 
  > no-contract-available 770 upgrade.

  Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in
  Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator.
  Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, 
  outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for
  average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are
  different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also
  majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and
  even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one
  phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my
  country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in 
  firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is
  history too (maybe noone bought such phones?).

  So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too
  important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. 


  As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold
  by operators with contracts.

  Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts,
  doesn't fit their needs. 
  Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of
  nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it,
  there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in
  love with it.


  Hi there,

  The internet shop is not the only point of sale. Nokia 770 does sell in
  several retail chains, for example El Corte Ingles used to have them,
  CompUSA seems to have them too and I even saw them on sale at airport in
  Venice;-)  However they are not on offer in the usual mobile operator
  stores, with the notable exception of the Nokia Flagship Stores (AFAIK).





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