[maemo-users] my two big fustrations with the N800 - please help me find aworkaround!

From: Tomas Junnonen tomas.junnonen at nokia.com
Date: Fri Jul 20 12:08:11 EEST 2007
ext Ed Bartosh wrote:
>>  The problem is that the repos are frustrating to access and use, so folks 
>> are throwing up their own instead.  
> This one I don't understand at all, sorry. What frustration are you
> talking about? For those developers who has garage accounts it's just
> matter of sending one e-mail asking for access to extras. What kind of
> frustration do you see here?
>> It's an often discussed problem on 
>> the developers list, although I don't recall that any clear conclusion 
>> has been reached beyond "Nokia is working on making the repos better", 
>> or that any clear timeline has been laid out for improvements.
> If it's about extras I think it's 100% community issue. Extras was given
> to community long time ago, but people didn't manage to organize more or
> less working practice to put their packages there. They prefer to have
> their own repositories or just put packages everywhere for some unknown
> reason.

I think at least partially it's because there's no carrot being offered
to the developers. If the Extras repository was included in the
Application Manager by default, although disabled (as Multiverse is in
Ubuntu, you can show a disclaimer when enabling it), people would be
more likely to upload to it:

- It creates awareness of the repository. Outside this mailing list few
developers are likely to even know of the existence of this repository.
If the repository is visible in the manager you can Google for
instructions on how to get your own software there.

- It gives the developer a wider audience to distribute to than just
having his .install file on his project page. Plus it's just cool to be
able to install your software "out of the box" in a few clicks.

- Without some official blessing Extras is just-another-repo from
developer perspective, with the added downside of not being fully under
the developer's control.

The process for delivering to the Extras repository could also be

- In my opinion there's a "don't call us, we'll call you" vibe in the
instructions on Garage.

- Integrate it with the garage project page! When creating a release and
uploading files to the project, there should be a checkbox on the
release page for automagically pushing the packages to the repository.
If there's any additional hoops to jump through people just aren't going
to bother. Witness how few people bother listing their software on
downloads.maemo.org compared to the large number of new releases on
Garage (which is another discussion, creating a new release on Garage
should update the downloads catalog automatically).


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