[maemo-users] 4.2007.38-2 available

From: Eero Tamminen eero.tamminen at nokia.com
Date: Wed Oct 3 16:33:47 EEST 2007

ext Simon Pickering wrote:
>> As I said, the wine could be getting to me here in Montreal, but THAT'S
>> why I bought this toy, and that translates to 90 minutes plus if I have
>> to reconfigure it at each flash!!  And I repeat, Nokia, I'm not
>> bitching, thatks for the great toy, it's already making my life much
>> better, but please re-arange your priorities to give us this feature
>> before others.
> And perhaps this is exactly all they will be able to give you. If you 
> perform an upgrade in place, it presumes that the upgraded files will 
> occupy the same or less space than those already there. If you have 
> almost filled up your internal flash with user-installed apps, then 
> there will need to be some way of deciding what you should delete/not 
> install to get the upgrade to work.
> We should add to this the fact that (certainly in the old days) jffs2 
> required some reboots and free space to get it to reclaim the space 
> used by deleted files. This will become an issue if you want to do an 
> upgrade in place and have very little free space.

Some misc notes of upgrades.

I'm pretty sure that the dist-upgrade is going to require tens
of MBs of free space to do e.g. because some of the packages are
pretty large (check for example the Browser packages in garage).

Although the update would be automatic, doing all the package upgrades
(downloading & saving the packages, then upgrading them etc) will be
taking a lot of time.  Marius, are we talking about hours here?

(During which the device may not run out of free space or battery
or you might need to reflash anyway.)

Because Chinook release is ABI incompatible[1], the upgrade will
break many of the Bora 3rd party packages, so you need anyway
to install Chinook versions of them.  Therefore dist-upgrade
is less useful from Bora to Chinook than people might think.

Note also that the package alternative to reflashing might not give you
everything due to same reason why Debian apt-get dist-upgrade might not
be same as re-install[2].

	- Eero

[1] http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1184675758.html
[2] Things like default file system changing from ext-2 to ext-3. :-)

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