[maemo-users] N810 is here -- whitout ogg support

From: Krischan Keitsch krischan.keitsch at alumni.tu-berlin.de
Date: Fri Oct 19 09:19:43 EEST 2007
Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Steve Greenland:
> According to John Rudd  <john at rudd.cc>:
> > And, no, it's not about "open and free".  Since the developers in
> > question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the
> > N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's
> > about how much effort the developers need to put into supporting
> > something vs. the amount of return they get from supporting it.
> Actually, it is about being open and free. Nokia promotes the tablet
> as an open platform, and is using huge amounts of free software as the
> basis for its product. To ignore ogg-vorbis support, which *is* an
> important feature for many of us (and far more valuable, to *me*, than
> WMA and AAC support), and is pretty much the only free-as-in-freedom
> codec, is a bit of a slap in the face.
> Some of us do have political agendas, such as promoting the use of free
> software. That Nokia uses our software (as is their right, according to
> our licenses), but then promotes non-free codecs/software, is a bit sad.
> Regards,
> Steve

A product such as internet tablets needs users (many users, not just oss 
enthusiasts) in order to get some traction on the market and to evolve. 
Therefore it makes sense to include mainstream media codex for non-developer 

On the other hand the internet tablets are not just commercial products but 
also a commitment by Nokia to support open source development ( see upstream 
projects such as hildon etc.). The business unit at Nokia taking care of the 
internet tablets have realiced that it reduces costs on the long run to 
participate on the open source development - taking and giving.

So, we have a strong commitment from Nokia towards open source and nice 
internet tablets aiming at average users as well as linux power users and 
developers. The average user might not care as much about ogg support or not 
(keeping in mind that the number of ogg content on the web increases) but we 
linux power users do. And we have been asking for ogg (dsp based) support 
since the early 770 OS2005 days! 

I think the comunity would accept a clear "no, we will not support ogg 
because ..." by Nokia when they would release desperately needed information 
about the dsp and the source of the proprietary media player. Then the 
comunity could put the peaces together. 

It is always refreshing to take a look at the openmoko project, their mailing 
lists and wiki. So far there is 'just' a developer version of that open phone 
available, but the community is extremely creative and enthusiastic. They know 
where they are at - maybe it is because it is all about openness?

Regards Krischan

More information about the maemo-users mailing list