[maemo-users] Hacker Edition (was Re: Is OS2006 still supported?)

From: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com hendrik at topoi.pooq.com
Date: Fri Apr 25 14:49:54 EEST 2008
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:43:59AM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
> ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> >>  My personal opinion (and I insist in the "personal" bit) is that a
> >>  requisite to continue any Hacker Edition model is to have the community
> >>  hackers not only involved but driving.
> > 
> > Agreed. But Nokia need to do some more work to make this viable. As I
> > outline in my "maemo.org: what next?" post[1], I'm afraid you can't
> > get this for free.
> > 
> > The community *could* maintain the Hacker Editions, but currently the
> > level of work involved would be too great to make it worthwhile. For
> > example (and I've not tried any of this myself, since I no longer have
> > a 770, so please forgive any errors):
> > 
> >   * How can the community create an easy to install FIASCO image?
> >   * How can the community easily recompile large numbers of source packages
> >     from Maemo 3.x and 4.x with 770-compatible optimisations?
> >   * Are the changes which were necessary to build the existing HEs integrated
> >     upstream; is the series of patches applyable and maintainable over a
> >     given codebase?
> >   * Is it clear which bits of an N800 firmware image need to be extracted and
> >    reused wholesale, and which bits of an existing 770 firmware image need to
> >    copied verbatim as they are binary blobs?
> >   * Can the kernel be updated and still maintain user-expected
> > functionality such
> >     as wifi, BT and power management?
> >   * If all the above is possible, can the community actually
> > redistribute the images
> >     in compliance with the click-through EULA on ITOS firmware downloads, which
> >     prohibits redistribution?
> And:
> * Which of the 3rd party binary blobs (flashplayer[1], fonts etc) in
>    the newer release would require users to buy extra licensees to
>    legally use it on another product.  And for which they can actually
>    do this
> [1] For example, you need to buy a license for using Flashplayer on
>      an embedded device:
> "Usage of Adobe Web Players is only permitted for supported
>   platforms; usage rights on non-PC devices or embedded systems
>   are not granted by this license."
>      see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/

It's not clear whether the n800 is an "embedded device".  It's very 
similar to some of the hard-disk-free laptops that are appearing these 
days, except for form factor.

-- hendrik

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