[maemo-users] List of Repository for OS2008

From: Ognen Duzlevski ognen at naniteworld.com
Date: Fri Jan 11 22:47:18 EET 2008
Norman Ramsey wrote:
>  >     There are other good reasons to have a central repository but I
>  >     don't really buy the ease of use argument for the user. The end
>  >     user still has to enable the extras repository. It would be just
>  >     as easy for a user to install a meta package, maybe call it
>  >     "maemo-universe", which adds every single repository in the
>  >     universe to the sources list. For example, if it added all the
>  >     repositories listed at http://www.gronmayer.com/it/, the end-user
>  >     doesn't need to know the difference that n repositories were added
>  >     versus one. The meta package could automatically update as new
>  >     repositories are added/removed.
>  > 
>  >     Of course there are issues about trusting repositories, quality,
>  >     etc. but that isn't an issue really solved with the extras
>  >     repository unless some Nokia person is actually checking packages
>  >     submitted to extras (which I doubt). I would trust a
>  >     maemo-universe package with a repository list created by the
>  >     community just as much as a random package in extras.
> As a long-time Debian user and even longer-time Unix developer, I look
> at the maemo world and see chaos.  I'd love to build and port some
> apps but the barrier to entry is just too high.  And as a user I see
> only confusion.
> The maemo community would benefit greatly if a nucleus of volunteers
> would step forward to implement some of the social apparatus behind
> Debian:
>   * A body of package maintainers who are trusted to make sure that
>     packages are OK.
>   * GPG keys with which trusted maintainers can *sign* packages.
>   * A *small* number of repositories with clearly defined missions.
>     (As a user, I want to *understand* /etc/apt/sources.list and know
>     who is signing the repositories that are in it.)
>   * A process by which anybody can become a package maintainer.
> It's too bad Nokia didn't bootstrap such a process, but they didn't.
> In fact, I think Nokia is making the problem worse by making critical
> applications closed-source.  (Or at least if the source to things like
> Email, RSS Reader, and Clock is available, I can't find it.)  
> I can understand there is a business case about keeping device drivers
> as closed source, although this is a question about which reasonable
> people can differ.  I can't see *any* reason why *any* application
> should be closed-source.  This doesn't benefit Nokia, and it inhibits
> the formation of a community because only Nokia can see the major
> applications. 
> If anyone at Nokia is listening, I think if you move to a model of
> open source apps, open-source kernel, proprietary device drivers,
> which is a model the community understands, in the long run you are
> going to sell a *lot* more tablets!

I was in the process of writing an email along the same lines. I have 
been a long-term Linux user and programmer and must say that chaos 
abounds in OS200?/maemo land, sadly. I have an N800 and it is a very 
cool device, but the documentation, tutorials, howto, "training" 
materials - they all seem to rehash the same stuff in various ways, too 
many links to follow, too many combinations of OS/software versions that 
work or don't work in a particular setup, the number of repositories is 
confusing and in general I feel a bit lost. This whole "mess" could be 
easily resolved with the suggestions you provided above.


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