[maemo-users] Postal address in Contacts?

From: Mark wolfmane at gmail.com
Date: Wed Jun 18 02:49:03 EEST 2008
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Jesper Cheetah <mail at jespercheetah.dk> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 04:34:09PM -0600, Mark wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kevin T. Neely
>> > But the tablet *can* send e-mail and it *can* initiate voice
>> > communications,
>> >  which is a good reason for it to store e-mail addresses.  I
>> > believe the RTcomm update allows you to initiate voice calls
>> > to phone numbers that are stored in the contacts database but
>> > I have not played with this.
>> Let's see if I've got this straight: you're saying that it's somehow
>> easier to drag out the tablet, start up Contacts, look up the person,
>> make sure you're tethered to your phone with bluetooth, then use the
>> tablet to tell the phone to dial the number, than to simply open the
>> phone, press a few buttons and make the call? (Or better yet, press
>> one button and use voice recognition to make the call.) Uh, I confess
>> you've got me speechless over that one...
> Nope, you didn't get that straight. N800 (and I pressume the N810 as
> well) can do VoIP/SIP by itself, thanks to rtcomm. It would require that
> your N8x0 is online though, which admittedly isn't always the case.

I stand corrected. There has been some discussion of the capability I
described, and I've never understood the attraction.

However, the argument still stands. Having to open a separate
application instead of working directly in the application you are
really using is a PITA. I'm aware of Skype (and Gizmo), but don't know
anyone else who is using it, so my account is inactive until I find
someone else who's using it. I do know that Skype has its own address
book which includes a very quick and easy "find" feature to add new
contacts, and that's a whole lot more convenient and reliable than
opening a separate app. (I just checked the built-in SIP client, and
it's the same way: Contacts is indeed redundant and irrelevant.)

>> > The internal contacts database also works with Modest, which is what
>> > I use.  Therefore, the e-mail program I use /does/ use the the
>> > contacts database.
>> ...and you don't have an address book in Modest? Or you don't use it?
>> Again, you're saying that it's easier to open up a separate program
>> and deal with it than to simply use the features of the program you're
>> using. Modest's address book must really be a pile of crap!...
> Obviously you've not tried Modest. As Kevin tried to explain, Modest
> uses the Contacts database, not some silly seperate database, and thus
> integrates very nicely with all the other Maemo software.
> --
> Jesper Cheetah

No, I haven't...and now I know *not* to...

Every email app I've used to date instantly and painlessly imports and
exports address books, which is a darn sight better than Contacts will
ever do. Hasn't anybody learned the lesson from Micro$oft/IE that
"integration" is a *bad* thing? Powerful, painless import and export
(and sync) are our friends. Integrated=proprietary+closed+PITA.
Import+Export=complete freedom between many completely different apps,
not only apps that perform similar functions, but completely different

And the vCard format is incredibly clunky and limited. Not the best
choice for the only supported format. Then there's the fact that
Contacts doesn't remove the quote marks from any of the fields. PITA!


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