[maemo-users] Nokia device usage

From: John Holmblad jholmblad at acadiasecurenets.com
Date: Sat Mar 7 00:37:36 EET 2009

you have put into words a good operational definition of the mass market 
for the context of this discussion, that is:

    "...........people that don't have some technical orientation"

Like many companies, Nokia seems to have been fooled into thinking that 
the mass market as one that DOES have a technical orientation. Apple, a 
very experienced marketing as well as technology company does not make 
this mistake.

I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a great 
combination. Unfortunately, and in direct contrast to Cisco,  Apple does 
not do acquisitions  and they have never been good at it.

Best Regards,


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Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
> Ognen Duzlevski a écrit :
>> Hello,
>> I am curious to find out what people use their Nokias for. If anyone 
>> could share their usage patterns, it would be appreciated.
> Hello,
> I own a N770. a N800 and a N810. I use a Nokia 6600 Slide for call, SMS, 
> photo, agenda and modem. I hope that the next internet Tablet will make 
> the use of the phone obsolete. I alway carry the N810 with me. My usage 
> is for:
> - Browsing the Internet, even if the amount of ads in more and more 
> sites make it barely usable. I found hard to open a link in a new tab (I 
> like to do so). Script execution should be stoppable easily from the 
> interface because some site abuse of it and it's painful to wait the 
> dialog that propose to stop the script. On reasonable sites, it work 
> very well and make it a far more useful tool than the browsers of the phone.
> - Playing music. One of the task that work the best.
> - Taking notes using Maemopad+. I found the concept useful but need more 
> work. Saving more than a dozen of nodes are too slow. I like the way it 
> can save the result into HTML page.
> - Connecting to other computers with SSH to make remote work. For me 
> this is the most productive feature of the N810. Having a xterm by 
> default is sweet.
> - Reading PDF document. Very good result. I suggest to keep the last 
> horizontal position of the page when passing one page to an other in 
> zoom mode, because many documents have small font and large space on the 
> left of the text.
> - I use MaemoMapper with the internet GPS when I don't have a bluetooth 
> GPS with me. The result with the internal GPS is very frustrating 
> comparing to the result with the external one in the same condition. 
> Switching from the external to the internal GPS is absolutely a 
> nightmare (sometime it work only after a full reboot). Using real map is 
>   an excellent feature of MaemoMapper with his ability to store them for 
> reuse. I never success using point of interest. The auto-center mode is 
> too easily to disable compared to to operation the enable it (require 
> the menu or the keyboard). The GPS fix should be indicated into the GPS 
> info box instead of a system message, because it can stay for long time 
> (especially with the internal GPS). The AGPS should work out of the box.
> - Programming some python script. Sadly, i found no small code editor 
> that is comfortable in text mode (vi is ok, but I am not a big fan of 
> it). Too many of them use the CTRL key that it so painful to use, even 
> with the toolbar in the xterm. I tested pygtkeditor but found it too 
> slow as file get bigger. I hope that one day it would be possible to 
> have a native GCC on the tablet, so I could program in C.
> - Transfer files from my phone using bluetooth. This work great and is 
> very useful.
> - Transfer file with my computer using bluetooth work, but file browsing 
> is not available. This require to use rsync or the SD card. I have 
> tested to use the N810 as a USB storage, but I ended too often with a 
> corrupted file system, so I don't use this feature any more.
> - Showing photos to others. This work and the images are superb thank to 
> the quality of the screen. The default application is half finished. I 
> prefer to use Quiver.
> - Making Skype call. I found it usable only using a Wifi link, with very 
> good result.
> - Playing video. it work, but the experience is not comfortable. There 
> is too many stall while using the interface. The time adjustment is very 
> too small to be useful when the video is long as is a normal movie.
> - Playing some games. The comfort is very different from one game to an 
> other. The games that follow the GUI concept of the tablet are great. 
> The others are less. Some to the point that there are not very usable.
> - Installing and updating application is too easily broken. Nokia should 
>   provide a real central repository like every distribution does and 
> should find a way to get ride of the stupid legal box that pop up for 
> every package that is not from Nokia. The refresh of the application 
> list take too long and don't remember the position after an operation. I 
> use Debian on my computers and I found it far more easy to update and 
> install applications. I hope that the tablet will have a so good 
> application as is synaptic.
> - I have tryed to use the default mail client, but it is too buggy to be 
> usable. I tested claws-mail with some success, but the interface require 
> too much learning to be safe with. It is not appropriate for taking last 
> messages of very large IMAP folders.
> Overall, I found the N810 investment a good decision for my use. One of 
> my soon like to use the N800 now that I have the N810. he use it to play 
> music, movie, game and viewing photos since it have 2 year old. I can 
> say that small child have no problem using an tablet. The N770 have no 
> use anymore as it can only run old early applications that are too 
> frustrating to use.
> I will certainly but the next tablet, as it seem to have an integrated 
> 3G link, a high resolution camera and a even more comfortable interface. 
> It will make my phone obsolete if I can make phone call, SMS and have a 
> good agenda.
> The concept is good, the hardware too. I think that the most opportunity 
> to progress is in the usability of the applications. Too much small bugs 
> or frustrating interface prevent to make the current tablet enjoyable 
> for people that don't have some technical orientation justifiable giving 
> the price point and the growing concurrence of similar devices in that 
> market. It seem that others manufacturers get bigger market share 
> because there devices are usable as a phone and are sold by any phone 
> operators, with all the advertisement that come with.
> Best regards,

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