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<font face="Arial">Devesh,<br>
<br>
your point is well taken. But what puzzles me is that with Nokia's
formidable capabilities with respect to handset and related consumer
products manufacturing, why is there not by now a broader family of 770
products that all take advantage the ongoing growing investment in
software. The PDA market has been characterized by a very high rate of
innovation/improvement in hardware and it is common for a new revision
of a manufacturer's hardware baseline to occur at 18 month intervals or
less. I realize that the 770 at least right now seems to be targeted to
a very specific market niche (I have yet to see someone pull one out at
a meeting or conference here in the U.S.) so it may be that the slow
uptake of this product has caused Nokia to hold back on implementing an
aggressive hardware upgrade roadmap.<br>
<br>
One factor I think that holds back this product is price. As with many
consumer goods there is a price elasticity of demand for this kind of
product and right now the price is well above that which is necessary
for product sales to take off to the point where you actually see lots
of people caring one of these around. If the price gets down to $150 or
less then you may see people having several of these things laying
around the house for convenient www browsing, remote (RDP/VNC) access
into the home network, serving as remote controllers for Microsoft
Windows and other media center systems, as well as control of home
environmental/security/irrigation/lighting systems. In that sense the
product could be repositioned as the "Home Network Intranet Tablet" or
something like that. At the right price they could even take market
share from some of the purpose specific providers on touch-screen
products for high end home entertainment systems (e.g. Crestron and
others) most of whom by now are using Linux any in their embedded OS
environments.<br>
<br>
Here by the way is the url to some recent commentary from Ari Virtanen,
vice president of convergence products at Nokia on what they are
considering for future hardware revisions:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://news.com.com/2100-1044_3-6086747.html?part=rss">http://news.com.com/2100-1044_3-6086747.html?part=rss</a><br>
<br>
If Ari or his team are listening on this thread then I say to him/them,
don't wait for WIMAX, but get on with the next revision of hw soon, as
in 6 months or less to address the deficiencies in the current hardware
baseline! By adding a expresscard slot (assuming there is room) and a
USB interface the product would be able to accommodate almost any
external device supporting one or the other interface including a
future WIMAX client card that should be available in the market in the
next 6-12 months. Also, how about a wall/desk mount cradle for the
device so it can be charged when it is not in use?<br>
<br>
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Devesh Kothari wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44B5EE11.107@nokia.com" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">ext John B. Holmblad wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">All,
has Nokia given any indication of if/when the next revision of the 770
hardware will become available? If the 770 is going to be a stable
ongoing member of the Nokia product portfolio, as opposed to a one
shot offering, then it would be reasonable if not prudent for Nokia
to provide a hardware roadmap so that developers have an incentive to
continue developing software for the platform.
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
It is nokia policy not to give out details about future products to
general public. Though such information (or some of it) is available to
nokia partners who have all the confidentiality agreements in place.
As for "one shot offering" , all i can say is nokia is definitely here
in this space for a long haul. If it was a "one shot" thingie, why would
we have taken all the trouble with creating a open development
environment, working so closely/listening/contributing with community,
established maemo :)
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I noticed in the Maemo software roadmap on the www page whose url is
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html">http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html</a>
a reference to x86 device emulation/virtualization but I wonder
whether the performance of the current hardware would be anywhere near
sufficient to allow anything useful to be accomplished in a vm
environment.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
The reference in the roadmap about virtualization is purely as a
development platform, so that the developers can transform their PC into
a n770 device (together with attached peripherals like usb WLAN, or USB
BT dongles) in a VM and cut down development and debugging time
(hopefully). No specific work has been done on that front :( yet
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Interestingly, and as some on this list may be aware, Microsoft has
recently released an ARM device emulator that runs on Windows OS's and
is entirely decoupled from the Microsoft Visual Studio development
environment. For anyone interested in trying out this emulator, here
is the url at the Microsoft www site to it:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=C62D54A5-183A-4A1E-A7E2-CC500ED1F19A&displaylang=en">www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=C62D54A5-183A-4A1E-A7E2-CC500ED1F19A&displaylang=en</a>
It includes images for Windows Mobile 5.0. have tested it (the
emulator + the WM 5.0 images) and it works fine on Windows XP SP2 host
as long as the host system processor speed and ram are sufficient. It
runs fast enough that I can stream audio from a live radio www site
through IE + Media Player on the emulated device over to the host OS
and play it out on the speakers on the host OS without any noticeable
stuttering. The payload measured by Media Player in this case is ~22kbs.
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->This is very interesting. I will check this out. Thanks
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I have also installed and tested a SyncML client from Funambol on the
emulator. Funambol, for those who are not aware of the company,
markets an opensource technology based on SyncML that allows PIM
servers such as Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes, etc to be sync with
mobile devices that implement the SyncML protocol stack. Here is the
url to the Funambol www site:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.funambol.com">www.funambol.com</a>
On the subject of syncml I have two related questions:
1. Does the 770 software support/implement syncml?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Currently 770 does not have a syncml implementation, but I hope someone
would port one :)
Best Regards
Devesh
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> 2. Has anyone successfully tested the 770 with the Funambol software?
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