Hi Marius<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 05/12/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Marius Vollmer</b> <<a href="mailto:marius.vollmer@nokia.com">marius.vollmer@nokia.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
"ext Simon Oosthoek" <<a href="mailto:simon.oosthoek@gmail.com">simon.oosthoek@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br><br>> I've been seeing a lot of crashes lately, not just with the application<br>> installer, but now I just reflashed the -39 release of IT2006 on my nokia770
<br>> and I get a crash during the downloading of the xterm package :-(<br><br>Did it happen during the downloading, or during installation? Does it<br>happen reliably, i.e., every time you try to install xterm?</blockquote>
<div><br>I didn't try that, but it happened again when I installed another "big" package (>1MB). The crash happens during the download.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
>From which repository did you install osso-xterm? What other<br>repositories did you have configured?</blockquote><div><br>xterm came from <a href="http://repository.maemo.org">repository.maemo.org</a> mistral free<br>also I've configured
<br>maemo extras and the fbreader repository<br>(the order was: extras, free (install xterm) fbreader)<br><br></div>(Basically, the repository landscape is f*cked up, and it is easy to<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
get combinations of packages that don't work together, I think.)</blockquote><div><br>Sounds bad :-( <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>There is a watchdog, but I don't think it monitors CPU usage. (A user<br>process can not refuse to give the CPU back to the Linux kernel.) The<br>watchdog reboots the device when critical system processes die.</blockquote>
<div><br>From what I've read, it also kills when the CPU is hogged (sorry, can't find the source right now, but it was an IRC log)<br>the command: ./flasher-2.0 --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset<br>seems to have stopped the crashes, but I'm not sure how safe this is...
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> Of course, I'm also annoyed that this is happening because of the<br>> use of a standard application, that just should not happen!
<br><br>Of course it should not happen! :-) But please understand that you are<br>dealing with a pretty young system here and that we deliberately<br>exercise basically no control over what packages people make available<br>
for the device.<br></blockquote></div><br><br>I have understanding, but the opera browser, the application installer and the lifeguard feature are all Nokia's, so they should work well together, at least!<br>If fbreader or xterm or whatever crashes or even kills the OS, I accept that as my risk, but the clean distro should perform the basic functions without crashing on a file download.
<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Simon<br><br>PS, I do appreciate the whole linux choice by Nokia and thus their kudos haven't run out yet wih me ;-)<br>