<html><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;charset=UTF-8"><meta content="Group-Office 2.16" name="GENERATOR"></head><body><blockquote><font color="#0000ff"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">7) when an application goes out of control (which, for example, my mplayer seems to be doing), how does one stop/kill it? The best way I have found so far is to open a terminal and give it a kill command. But what should I do if the GUI is frozen? Rebooting seems a bad idea as the filesystem of the N800 is not journalled and I am concerned that reboots might result in lost data. </span></span></font><br />
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This won't work if the GUI is frozen, of course, but it does remove the xTerm layer (if you want to):<br />
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https://garage.maemo.org/projects/load-applet/<br />
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T.<br />
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<strong>Subject: </strong>Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800<br />
<strong>From: </strong>andrei raevsky <raevsky.andrei@gmail.com><br />
<strong>To: </strong>"Tim" <tim@samoff.com><br />
<strong>CC: </strong>"maemo-users@maemo.org" <maemo-users@maemo.org><br />
<strong>Date: </strong>04/03/2007 7:25 am<br />
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Dear friends,<br />
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Thanks for all your suggestions. Looks like this list was the correct one to submit questions to :-)<br />
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A couple of small follow-up, if I may:<br />
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1) updating the firmware: I have been using only GNU/Linux since 2000 (mostly Debian). I could try to find somebody with W2k or XP, but is there no GNU version of the software update at Nokia?! Surely this Debian-based unit has a Debian-based updating option? Also - since don't suppose 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' would work - why can't the 'check for updates' option of the application manager now allow a complete firmware update? Is it in the ROM? <br />
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2) batteries: just to see if I got this one right - I can leave the unit permanently connected to the charger and the batteries will be ok?<br />
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3) metalayer-crawler0: how do I disable this and could I simply let the unit sit for 5 minutes after boot-up instead? <br />
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4) chargers: the unit comes with a Nokia AC-4U charger rated at DC 5V/<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 102);">890mA</span>. My cellphone - a Nokia 6133 - comes with a AC-3U charger rated at DC 5V/<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"> 350mA<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">. Could I use either one of them for *both* my N800 and my phone? That would mean less stuff to travel with (I also have a car charger for my phone - could I use that one for my N800?). <br />
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5) repos: the catalog of my application manager currently includes the following repos:<br />
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<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Nokia catalogue</span></span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Nokia catalogue (3rd party software)</span></span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"> <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">FBReader repository</span></span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">maemo-hackers</span></span> </li>
<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">bora-extras</span></span></li>
<li><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> mg</span></span></li>
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<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Can I trust all these repos and what repos should I add to this list?<br />
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6) system crashes: how does one reinstall/fix a N800 unit after a major crash? Assuming that I - as roo - do something I should not, or that by installing the wrong software I really screw-up my tablet terminally. How can I rescue/reinstall it? </span></span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Is there a way to bootup the unit in CLI to fix any X/GUI problems?</span></span><br />
<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"> <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br />
and lastly:<br />
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7) when an application goes out of control (which, for example, my mplayer seems to be doing), how does one stop/kill it? The best way I have found so far is to open a terminal and give it a kill command. But what should I do if the GUI is frozen? Rebooting seems a bad idea as the filesystem of the N800 is not journalled and I am concerned that reboots might result in lost data. <br />
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Many thanks again and kind regards,<br />
<br />
Andrei<br />
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