On Dec 28, 2007 10:02 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti <<a href="mailto:fabrettia@gmail.com">fabrettia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I know you didn't want to enter that discussion, but you said "OGG<br><div class="Ih2E3d">might suck compared to mp4(debatable on how teh) but it is patent free<br></div>and easy enough to support in unixland" and Nokia doesn't believe that
<br>:)</blockquote><div><br>Fair enough. :) <br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<br><br><br>On Dec 28, 2007 3:00 PM, Jon Dodson <<a href="mailto:jbdodson@gmail.com">jbdodson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I wasnt really trying to enter that discussion, just tag on my opinion to<br>> the end of my general "this is cool", "i am wondering about this" email.
<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Dec 28, 2007 9:56 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti < <a href="mailto:fabrettia@gmail.com">fabrettia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > There was a discussion regarding OGG support, I don't have any links
<br>> > right now but if you google "Nokia OGG" you'll find them.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Dec 28, 2007 2:51 PM, Jon Dodson <<a href="mailto:jbdodson@gmail.com">
jbdodson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > > Just wanted to say that I really appreciate the OS2008 upgrade. Ive<br>> heard<br>> > > it said on the listserv and it seems to be true in my case, it really is
<br>> > > like a new device. Things I appreciate:<br>> > ><br>> > > * Default Media Player plays mp4 now.<br>> > > * New theme is super-slick<br>> > > * Seems the new browser is Mozilla and the rendering is better.
<br>> Improved<br>> > > YouTube & flash video, which is very nice.<br>> > > * New Menu structure is much easier on my fingers<br>> > > * Minimizing mplayer doesnt make everything double large and impossible
<br>> to<br>> > > change the screen bright or system volume.<br>> > > * Internet Radio included is super cool<br>> > ><br>> > > With that I had a few questions.<br>> > ><br>
> > > * Currently there are a few bars for selecting screen bright and in<br>> OS2007<br>> > > there were many more. Didn't find a place to bring it back. I can<br>> handle<br>> > > this change, I just don't see the benefit.
<br>> > > * When I use the browser, in general, and this is just a perception that<br>> may<br>> > > or may not be accurate, it just seems slower.<br>> > > * When I type a URL in the the browser, occasionally it doesnt register
<br>> and<br>> > > it just reloads the page I am on.<br>> > > * When I install fceu I get a dbus dependency error and I can't install<br>> it.<br>> > > Same with OS2007, if I can't play NES roms ill sepku. Ok, maybe not,
<br>> but it<br>> > > would be nice.<br>> > > * Why can't the default media player play DiVX? It advertises it can,<br>> but<br>> > > doesn't seem to be able to.<br>> > > * Why can't mplayer play mp4?
<br>> > > * Why can't it charge via USB?<br>> > ><br>> > > And this is an unrelated soapbox moment, please disregard if it gets in<br>> the<br>> > > way of the previous questions:
<br>> > ><br>> > > Openess free of patents is an amazing thing. It makes it possible to<br>> > > implement web functionality in your device with a much lower cost.<br>> Paying a<br>> > > patent for a video tag seems as silly to me as a patent for a checkbox.
<br>> OGG<br>> > > might suck compared to mp4(debatable on how teh) but it is patent free<br>> and<br>> > > easy enough to support in unixland. I imagine you switched to minimo to<br>> cut<br>> > > costs for licensing Opera(and other reasons), OGG would provide the same
<br>> > > benefit. Then again you may have already blanket licensed the mp4<br>> patent so<br>> > > it doesn't apply to you anymore because the initial investment has<br>> already<br>> > > been made. Regardless, its not just about Nokias interest, there is a
<br>> world<br>> > > of innovation to continue well beyond the walls of Nokia.<br>> > ><br>> > > Im not trying to create a flamewar, I just wanted to toss in a few<br>> cents.<br>> > >
<br>> > > PS Ill keep buying the NXXX because it is an amazing device. Thank you<br>> for<br>> > > making it.<br>> > ><br>> > > PPS sorry for my harsh title, sometimes you just need to say it. The
<br>> device<br>> > > is damn cool and looks great too!<br>> > ><br>> > > --<br>> > > -jon<br>> > ><br>> > > <a href="http://www.jdodson.org" target="_blank">http://www.jdodson.org
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