Same feeling :)<br><br>--<br>Anidel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Greene <<a href="mailto:atmasphere@atmasphere.net">atmasphere@atmasphere.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I have a feeling that my 915 subscriptions have something to do with<br>
the load issues. ;)<br>
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On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <<a href="mailto:anidel@gmail.com">anidel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That's weird,<br>
><br>
> MicroB opens my Google Reader page with no issue at all, and is actually<br>
> quite fast.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> anidel<br>
><br>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Greene <<a href="mailto:atmasphere@atmasphere.net">atmasphere@atmasphere.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I love the Fennec browser though it could clearly use less memory, be<br>
>> more stable and launch more quickly. ;)<br>
>><br>
>> It can actually render my Google Reader page which MicroB cannot ... I<br>
>> find it super responsive and hope we see it packaged in a future<br>
>> release. What I understood from the original Ars piece on the topic<br>
>> was that they are pretty close relatives, but that Fennec benefits<br>
>> from a later code base which seems to really make quite the<br>
>> difference.<br>
>><br>
>> For every day use though I am running MicroB as it is far more<br>
>> reliable at the moment.<br>
>><br>
>> JG<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Quim Gil <<a href="mailto:quim.gil@nokia.com">quim.gil@nokia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ext John Holmblad wrote:<br>
>> >> All,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> for those who have not already seen the article whose url is:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It provides a comparison of the performance of Microb versus Fennec on<br>
>> >> the N810. Fennec shows a ~6x speed improvement for javascript.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yes, the numbers of these automated tests are right. However, users<br>
>> > having used both browsers will probably agree that in terms of real user<br>
>> > experience as for today both are pretty similar, and even the Nokia<br>
>> > version is performing better in real use conditions. I'm talking about<br>
>> > my own experience and comments I've heard.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > What is your opinion? I'm sure both Nokia and Mozilla developers are<br>
>> > interested to know.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Is someone lying? Not at all. It's just a matter of looking at the<br>
>> > details. The current MicroB engine was developed one year ago by Nokia<br>
>> > starting with a pre-alpha of the latest Gecko engine, the freshest code<br>
>> > available by then. The release under development done last Summer put a<br>
>> > Mozilla based browser at a level where nobody could before (including<br>
>> > the own Mozilla guys, who were happily surprised btw). Now Fennec is<br>
>> > shipping a most recent Gecko and of course putting both one by side you<br>
>> > get nowadays much better performance at engine level. How much MicroB's<br>
>> > open source code helped on that, I don't know but I guess it saved them<br>
>> > some work.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > But users don't deal with engines alone, you have the UI in between and<br>
>> > this is where the Mozilla browser in Chinook and Fennec differ most: the<br>
>> > first uses an own UI providing -as for today- much better performance<br>
>> > that XUL, a component that seems like needing more work before being<br>
>> > really fit in mobile devices. Are we going to keep this difference in<br>
>> > the future? Time we tell. Both teams have a lot of work to do anyway.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > But in fact the best part of this Mozilla browsers comparison is not the<br>
>> > numbers competition part but the human collaboration part. The Mozilla<br>
>> > and Nokia developers are collaborating and both projects are in sync.<br>
>> > The current development of the Mozilla browser for Diablo+1 is based<br>
>> > directly on the Gecko trunk and we are discussing ways of deepening the<br>
>> > collaboration, also at a community level. Imagine the wide community of<br>
>> > Firefox add-on developers targeting the maemo platform - that would be<br>
>> > fun.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We are even having some common exercises of exploration, both sides<br>
>> > learning a lot i.e. Qt support -<br>
>> > <a href="http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/" target="_blank">http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Conclusion: We are as happy as you seeing the performance progress done<br>
>> > by the Fennec project. We feel honored by them targeting our platform in<br>
>> > the first place. Nokia is doing the right thing with the Mozilla<br>
>> > development. Lots of potential for collaboration and cool stuff.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Quim Gil<br>
>> > marketing manager, open source<br>
>> > maemo software @ Nokia<br>
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> anidel<br>
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