That's weird,<br><br>MicroB opens my Google Reader page with no issue at all, and is actually quite fast.<br><br>--<br>anidel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Greene <<a href="mailto:atmasphere@atmasphere.net">atmasphere@atmasphere.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I love the Fennec browser though it could clearly use less memory, be<br>
more stable and launch more quickly. ;)<br>
<br>
It can actually render my Google Reader page which MicroB cannot ... I<br>
find it super responsive and hope we see it packaged in a future<br>
release. What I understood from the original Ars piece on the topic<br>
was that they are pretty close relatives, but that Fennec benefits<br>
from a later code base which seems to really make quite the<br>
difference.<br>
<br>
For every day use though I am running MicroB as it is far more<br>
reliable at the moment.<br>
<br>
JG<br>
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On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Quim Gil <<a href="mailto:quim.gil@nokia.com">quim.gil@nokia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> Hi,<br>
><br>
> ext John Holmblad wrote:<br>
>> All,<br>
>><br>
>> for those who have not already seen the article whose url is:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html</a><br>
>><br>
>> It provides a comparison of the performance of Microb versus Fennec on<br>
>> the N810. Fennec shows a ~6x speed improvement for javascript.<br>
><br>
> Yes, the numbers of these automated tests are right. However, users<br>
> having used both browsers will probably agree that in terms of real user<br>
> experience as for today both are pretty similar, and even the Nokia<br>
> version is performing better in real use conditions. I'm talking about<br>
> my own experience and comments I've heard.<br>
><br>
> What is your opinion? I'm sure both Nokia and Mozilla developers are<br>
> interested to know.<br>
><br>
> Is someone lying? Not at all. It's just a matter of looking at the<br>
> details. The current MicroB engine was developed one year ago by Nokia<br>
> starting with a pre-alpha of the latest Gecko engine, the freshest code<br>
> available by then. The release under development done last Summer put a<br>
> Mozilla based browser at a level where nobody could before (including<br>
> the own Mozilla guys, who were happily surprised btw). Now Fennec is<br>
> shipping a most recent Gecko and of course putting both one by side you<br>
> get nowadays much better performance at engine level. How much MicroB's<br>
> open source code helped on that, I don't know but I guess it saved them<br>
> some work.<br>
><br>
> But users don't deal with engines alone, you have the UI in between and<br>
> this is where the Mozilla browser in Chinook and Fennec differ most: the<br>
> first uses an own UI providing -as for today- much better performance<br>
> that XUL, a component that seems like needing more work before being<br>
> really fit in mobile devices. Are we going to keep this difference in<br>
> the future? Time we tell. Both teams have a lot of work to do anyway.<br>
><br>
> But in fact the best part of this Mozilla browsers comparison is not the<br>
> numbers competition part but the human collaboration part. The Mozilla<br>
> and Nokia developers are collaborating and both projects are in sync.<br>
> The current development of the Mozilla browser for Diablo+1 is based<br>
> directly on the Gecko trunk and we are discussing ways of deepening the<br>
> collaboration, also at a community level. Imagine the wide community of<br>
> Firefox add-on developers targeting the maemo platform - that would be fun.<br>
><br>
> We are even having some common exercises of exploration, both sides<br>
> learning a lot i.e. Qt support -<br>
> <a href="http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/" target="_blank">http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/</a><br>
><br>
> Conclusion: We are as happy as you seeing the performance progress done<br>
> by the Fennec project. We feel honored by them targeting our platform in<br>
> the first place. Nokia is doing the right thing with the Mozilla<br>
> development. Lots of potential for collaboration and cool stuff.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Quim Gil<br>
> marketing manager, open source<br>
> maemo software @ Nokia<br>
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