Hendrik,<br><br>I stand corrected about the blobs.<br><br>However, is my point still valid?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Denis<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:45 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hendrik@topoi.pooq.com">hendrik@topoi.pooq.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:11:19AM -0600, Denis Dimick wrote:<br>
> Ryan,<br>
><br>
> First off I'd like to thank you and the other members of the Maemo community<br>
> council for devoting time to Maemo, we all are busy in this day and time,<br>
> and I'm grateful there are people willing to stand up and lead this<br>
> community.<br>
><br>
> Last night I was thinking about the issue of Nokia dropping support for<br>
> various hardware platforms, I'm speaking of in the future also, and I<br>
> started to think about the early days of Linux 15 years ago. There was not<br>
> any company that was willing to stand up and embrace Linux, come out with<br>
> ANY hardware support and most of the communities time was spend trying to<br>
> reverse engineer drivers. Now today we have a number of vendors that support<br>
> Linux and ship drivers, most users can seamlessly install Linux and we have<br>
> Nokia that has embraced Linux, and given us these wonderful toys, tools,<br>
> whatever you want to call them.<br>
><br>
> So the worst case here; Nokia drops out of the Linux market, or reduces<br>
> their support for older hardware platforms.<br>
><br>
> Since the software is open source,<br>
<br>
</div>except for the close-source binary-blob drivers that drive the<br>
proprietary chips.<br>
<br>
-- hendrik<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
> the hardware seems to be well documented,<br>
> the community knows how to write applications, hack the core O/S or UI, we<br>
> just end up going back in time a few years to the days where we had to patch<br>
> source ourselves, and chose what applications we want to install; until<br>
> someone re-writes the install process and we get back to a fully automated<br>
> install.<br>
><br>
> All we lose is a bit of time, we don't lose the hardware.<br>
><br>
> Just my thoughts,<br>
><br>
> Denis<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Ryan Abel <<a href="mailto:rabelg5@gmail.com">rabelg5@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Quim Gil wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > About the rest of the thread, how useful is it to discuss before Nokia<br>
> > > publishes the maemo 5 API and announces a product shipping it? Enjoy<br>
> > > your current devices! Fremantle is not even in alpha. The N810 WiMAX<br>
> > > edition just started the sales few days ago (running the very same<br>
> > > software inside). No matter what happens with Fremantle the N800/N810<br>
> > > users are going to benefit from this.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Well, when Nokia is done with Diablo to the point that they wont even<br>
> > apply a simple patch like this[1], then I'd say future plans are<br>
> > pretty important.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > [1]<a href="https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470" target="_blank">https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470</a><br>
> ><br>
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