<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Peter Flynn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.flynn@mars.ucc.ie">peter.flynn@mars.ucc.ie</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
[Java not only a language but a platform]<br>
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> Thats part of Suns stupid marketing strategy. Its a language and a<br>
</div>> platform. C++ is a language. QT is a platform. Oh hell, according to<br>
<div class="im">> the marketing Java is an OS as well.<br>
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</div>It's a language. There are platforms and OS-like applications built with it, but it's a language.</blockquote><div><br>No, you´re wrong. It´s a platform AND a language. In fact in the Java 1.x days Sun CLEARLY promoted it like that. Then the language jihad got over and the platform issue mostly disappeared from marketing. But it´s STILL a platform.<br>
<br>You can write code in Python or Ruby and run it in the java platform thanks to Jython and JRuby. H*ck, you can even use IBM´s Netrexx and write Rexx code and end up with Java bytecode...<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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> Both GTK and QT are plattforms which are just as powerfull as Java.<br>
</div><div class="im">> The need for Java on Maemo is pretty limited.<br>
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</div>Possibly, but essential in my case. It's a deal-breaker: no Java means I can't do my work, which requires several applications currently requiring Java. If Java isn't available for the N900, I won't buy it, and nor will any of my colleagues in the same business, several of whom bought N8*0s after seeing mine do what it does.</blockquote>
<div><br>Exactly my point. Nokia has a LOT to win by shipping the device with a Sun Java VM preinstalled. But they won´t listen, I´ve been saying this to anybody that would hear -both at Nokia and elsehwere- but it seems to me they´re too cozy with MSFT now...<br>
<br>Ironically, Symbian has better Java support than Maemo...<br><br><a href="http://developer.symbian.com/main/documentation/runtime_environments/java/">http://developer.symbian.com/main/documentation/runtime_environments/java/</a><br>
<br>Of course, that´s because that decision was made a lot of time before the current Nokia-MSFT honeymoon.<br>I bet they´d drop Java support from Symbian if they could.<br><br>FC<br><br>
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