1) Thank you very much for your tone of voice<br>2) I see your point is valid on the Bug fixes not a new GUI, but is this relevant to the Nx platform, I do not know<br>3) Sorry to have Nokia disappointed by the geeks and Maemo community,I wish that the community replies you here<br>
4) Sorry again to know that working for Open Source is boring,M$ has some vacancy go and enjoy yourself there<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com">kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:29 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote:<br>
> what is the life cycle of Nokia Nx series ? how many years ?!<br>
> Can you compare it to the rest of the hardware manufactures ?<br>
<br>
</div>You get bug fixes for a year or two, but that's different than porting a<br>
whole new software release. Or do you get new user interfaces for other<br>
N series phones?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> can you compare to other Nokia mobile phones ?<br>
<br>
</div>Yes. It's called maintenance, fixing of nasty bugs. Not rewriting the<br>
whole UI.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> it seems that Nokia creates such hardware and make it for geeks to<br>
> have kinda of free R&D research community, imagining that geeks do not<br>
> care about money, they just care about the toy/gadget<br>
<br>
</div>If that would be the case, Nokia would be very disappointed by these<br>
geeks by now :)<br>
Maemo/MeeGo is based on open-source and free software, yes, but most of<br>
this free software is written by companies, such as Nokia, not by<br>
teenage geeks with shiny foreheads. This is because most of the work is<br>
boring, endless debugging stuff and no-one wants to do it for free :)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I still appreciate that some1 from nokia gets into this discussion LOL<br>
<br>
</div>I'm not speaking for Nokia since I'm just a lowly, poor software<br>
developer doing the boring parts of open-source ;)<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
-Kimmo<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> please when you say Meego is supported on N900, send references and<br>
> links<br>
><br>
> kind regards<br>
> Sam<br>
><br>
> 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen <<a href="mailto:kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com">kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com</a>><br>
> On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote:<br>
> > thanks for ur reply<br>
> > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that<br>
> fast,<br>
> > even if Maemo5 is dragon<br>
> > they stopped the others<br>
> > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history<br>
> > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900<br>
><br>
><br>
> I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to<br>
> tell me...<br>
> Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new<br>
> devices,<br>
> competitors would go ahead and get the advantage. If<br>
> something does not<br>
> sell, you have to try something else.<br>
><br>
> > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for<br>
> N900, now<br>
> > Nokia plays the game again<br>
><br>
><br>
> What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo<br>
> and<br>
> certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900<br>
> already now.<br>
><br>
> > it is a pitty<br>
><br>
> Money comes from sales. How many people would be enthusiastic<br>
> of buying<br>
> something like N810 nowadays? You cannot sell the same device<br>
> for years<br>
> and years, it just gets old at some point.<br>
><br>
> -Kimmo<br>
><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Sam<br>
> ><br>
> > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen <<a href="mailto:kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com">kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com</a>><br>
> > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy<br>
> wrote:<br>
> > > now I have a question<br>
> > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device<br>
> and they<br>
> > kill it in<br>
> > > less than two years<br>
> > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ?<br>
> > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we<br>
> have seen<br>
> > the same<br>
> > > scenario with N770<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have<br>
> powerful<br>
> > enough OpenGL<br>
> > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5<br>
> would be<br>
> > really slow in<br>
> > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia<br>
> is in<br>
> > device selling<br>
> > business, so making devices worse is not in its<br>
> interest.. :)<br>
> ><br>
> > -Kimmo<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Kind Regards<br>
> > > Samer<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:erik@hovland.org">erik@hovland.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > > I would like to know if it is possible<br>
> update<br>
> > Nokia N810 to<br>
> > > Maemo5.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > You can't.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But there is a community effort to make<br>
> sure MeeGo<br>
> > is ported<br>
> > > to the N8x0:<br>
> > > <a href="http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0" target="_blank">http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hopefully in the near future there can be<br>
> a MeeGo<br>
> > 1.x on the<br>
> > > N810.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > E<br>
> > ><br>
> > > --<br>
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