[maemo-community] Election process referendum

From: Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers crashanddie at gmail.com
Date: Wed Feb 4 00:46:31 EET 2009
I don't give a toss about my karma. I just remember that the last time this
was discussed, I was disqualified from voting. Yet, I was more using this as
an example. We could have quite a few members who are silently listening,
and analysing what is happening in the community, and who do not feel the
need to voice their opinions, who do not blog, who do not like HTTP forums.
People like that are being banned from voting, just because they don't
express their opinion publicly?

I don't recall any constitution requiring people to talk so that they would
be allowed to vote. It's not because one has the ability to talk that they
should be forced to.

> I just don't understand the fuss you're making, Nokia said - when
> karma was first introduced - it'd be used as an indication for any
> future possible device programmes. Why is that OK, but using it as a
> benchmark to indicate someone's involvement in the community, to elect
> a council - to represent that community - is such a Bad Thing[TM]?
> Perhaps you can explain, rather than assert? Any power the council
> holds (and, despite a few assertions, we DO have some power[2]) will
> impact less on 99.9999% of the community than the chance of having
> shiny, new, cheap device.

I respect the council, please do not shift the focus of this conversation. I
do not undermine its knowledge or the members that compose it. I was
extremely proud and happy to hear the Maemo community was being given the
chance to have a council. Yet, there is a huge difference between utilising
an arbitrary number based on useless data gathered here and there to feed
egos, and empowering trolls with a vote, by removing that vote from others.
Yes, there, I said it. A troll has more chance of gathering karma than a
silent user.

One of the roles of the council is to give a voice to the community's
> cacophony, to make it easier to be heard by Nokia. If someone's not
> contributing to that cacophony, *why* should they get a vote in who
> filters, summarises and condenses it?

Because I choose to work the cacophony (btw, nice opinion of what you're
supposed to represent... Very.. Honorable, no, sorry that's not the right
word, very condescending) in different manners than by blogging,
incrementing my posts on itT, or yell about on this discussion list 24/7. I
talk with people, about their views, about their choices. I talk about how
they should brace themselves for the things that are to come, how to help
their project going forward. Because I care about other aspects of this
whole Maemo community which are most definitely not measurable by adding the
bits stored in a database.

[1] http://maemo.org/profile/view/crashanddie/

Aye, and the only reason I have karma points is because I need to sometimes
come here and reach out so that some people don't hurt themselves with their
ignorance. Aye, I'm arrogant as well. At least I care to admit it.

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