[maemo-community] founding a german e.V.

From: joerg Reisenweber joerg at openmoko.org
Date: Fri Mar 14 20:50:19 UTC 2014
Sounds like it was as good as it possibly gets, so I really hope this will pan 
As one of council I would be obliged to personally read the complete HiFo&MC 
rules/bylaws and compare them against the new e.V bylaws, to check for any 
ambiguities or things that slipped. Alas I'm really too busy meanwhile (I 
already announced that during/before last council election) so I can't assign 
the needed time to accomplish this task. So I just suggest that everybody with 
more time for such task has an eye on exactly this aspect of the move HiFo-
>e.V., so we don't see nasty surprises later on, like we did with the 
established-too-late Hildon council, or the mess about new directors getting 
appointed by board when a director leaves.

Please let me know when any such inaugural assembly will take place and how to 

Thanks for the great job done!


On Fri 14 March 2014 21:16:01 Gido Griese wrote:
> I admit I wasn't fully aware of the situation about server ownership,
> but I also admit that I don't believe the problem of who's admin-manager
> is really that pressing for now. Joerg did a great job so far and
> personally I think the initial and ongoing trouble is more of a
> communicational nature. Forthrightness was questioned and trust was
> lost, but thankfully nobody got injured and the maemo servers are still
> running, which should be our major concern after all. Let's not forget
> this is the main purpose of the foundation, respectively the e.V., it's
> written in both bylaws.
> The founding of the e.V. is far more important now since it's quite the
> one and only alternative right now and the approach is to have a sane
> organizational structure with clearly defined responsibilities. Then
> there should be no more opposing "HiFo" since everybody is "in". This
> has already been the attempt with current Foundation and, for council,
> has been achieved by the unification referendum and the goal remains the
> same for the e.V.
> What we're aiming for with the e.V. is to get everybody involved in such
> fundamental things to become a regular member.  This isn't even a
> requirement, but at least these things should be handled upon official
> acknowledgement of the e.V., where the General Assemly *has to be* the
> highest jurisdiction. Since we can't have all user accounts per se as
> regular members for obvious reasons, a new group has to be defined.
> Directors, Sysops, major admins are the first adress to approach in our
> case. It would be nice to have Councilors in too, but that's no
> requirement since they are holding position in an e.V.'s body and thus
> acting officially on behalf of the organization. Councilors emanate from
> community/associated members and remain the right to hold that status.
> What Ruediger and me have drafted is more democratic than what we have
> today and empowers core members, their vote effectively gains weight. It
> is planned to manifest in the bylaws § 7 (5) that "The Board of
> Directors executes the Council's and General Assembly's rulings."
> So much for "HiFo's" "power grab".
> All papers are ready, what needs to be resolved now is the issue of how
> to instate council. The idea is to have a briefed kickoff meeting where
> the bylaws are officially accepted by all founders, followed by a voting
> for the board of directors, then a voting for council.
> The preferred way is to re-elect current council.
> If a councilor thinks he can't agree to this procedure or the new
> bylaws, he can specify his concerns and we can discuss how those can be
> resolved.
> If that fails or current councilors won't candidate in the kickoff
> meeting, an interim council will be elected.
> Either way, next regular elections will be held no later then scheduled
> for actual council period and 100% according to today's election rules.
> If still any concerns from Council or community side remain towards the
> bylaws, please raise them now.
> Sincerely, your outgoing director

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