[maemo-community] 2014-09-02_meeting_minutes

From: Peter Leinchen peterleinchen at t-online.de
Date: Mon Sep 15 19:23:16 UTC 2014

Meeting held 2014-09-02 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Craig Woodward (Woody14619), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Ruediger Schiller (chem|st), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), Philippe Coval (rZr), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

    * NielDK's resignation
    * Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules
    * Code of Conduct

Topic (NielDK's resignation):

    * NielDk joined in even he was not expected to appear after his resignation post.
    * NielDk explained his view on Maemo.org and council/e.V. and the reasons that lead to his decision. I think this quote of NielDK [23:36]: "Let me extend a bit, I think Doc is correct in wanting the council to be the speach organ for the community, towards board, but it is not deciding what the board should accept or do (eV or HiFo), the board cant legally 100% function like that" expresses it the most.
    * At the end of the meeting NielDK was convinced to resign from his resignation. And keep staying active member of Council and board of MC e.V..

Topic (Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules):

    * The discussion faded into the transition to maemo e.V. and again the Council rules.
    * Another quote of Woody14619 [23:40] explains the situation we are in: "There are 3 points of contention: (legal) ownership/liability, (technical) operation, and (community) input and direction. Splitting liability from operation is the issue."
    * Board (e.V.) is the legal representation of maemo.org. And will take all legal responsibilities.
    * The role of e.V. seen by DocScrutinizer is only acting as cashier. But this does not fit the structure!
    * Another reason for clashing seems to be the pretending of "council rules". Council will still be elected by garage members (no change).
      But council election rules may be changed by board (2/3 majority).

    * Short conclusion (by peterleinchen): Council does not operate maemo.org, but eV does. Council is concentrator of community will (and speech organ to board/e.V.). Council will be elected from garage.m.o members. Council cannot force board to act illegally.
      Board is the legal owner (legally responsible). Board is therefore the entity that "governs" maemo.org. Board can change bylaws (also: council election rules) by 2/3 majority.
      The MCeV is an entity and chain of command is "General Meeting>Board>Council"
    * DocScrutinizer joined the channel after the meeting and claimed he just defended the "MAEMO COUNCIL AND ELECTION RULES"

    * Question came up, how much member really care about the community or whether community is already gone (due to so less votes (~100) against sent out tokens (~5800).

Topic (Code of Conduct):

    * RzR asked about to set up a Code of Conduct for maemo.org.
    * Please see the links as examples, like debian kde github mozilla

Action Items:

    * N/A

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