[maemo-developers] web based local application GUIs

From: Allan Doyle afdoyle at MIT.EDU
Date: Wed Nov 28 04:58:53 EET 2007
One of our original ideas for the MWOW project (http://museum.mit.edu/mwow 
) was to have the local web app talk to a local web proxy which then  
adds location info to the HTTP request and sends the request to a  
remote server. That way you can use the on-board linux tools to query  
a GPS, use wifi location, bluetooth beacons, etc.

The thing that immediately got in the way (on the 770) was that if you  
were actually connected to a WiFi access point, the ability to read  
signal strengths from the wifi radio got worse. Also, using the  
iwtools would cause the connection to drop some of the time.

Regarding standards - there is the GeoClue project (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue 
) which tries to hide the locationing device details under a uniform  

On the search side, there are no real standards for how to construct  
the geo portion of a search. OpenSearch does have a geo extension  
proposal (http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/Extensions/Geo/1.0/Draft_1 

And, Darius, regarding your question about the MIT Museum, no we don't  
have anything from those projects/groups but we do have other cool  
stuff. Stop by if you're in the Boston area!


On Nov 27, 2007, at 19:29 , Darius Jack wrote:

> Hi,
> why not ?
> It's a very popular gps monitoring application to send gps data to  
> www server
> from gps-enabled cell phone, over GPRS.
> It works fine for car, personal monitoring.
> 2 years ago I run such server and could watch tracks of 100 car live  
> in maps application.
> There is nothing special to send gps data that way.
> To have local search you can run middle-server communicating with  
> Google local
> and Nokia tablet, residing gps data and query string and sending  
> back search results.
> Why do you mean to introduce your idea as a standard ?
> Some ppl need some privacy from time to time.
> There is another solution. Under latest EUC proposal
> operator of cell phone and manufacturer of sim card could be obliged  
> to incorporate gps chip into sim card to let operators of alarm  
> phone to know exact geoposition of a calling party on a map.
> Another idea and solution already known in PDA +cell phone + gps  
> market.
> I see no problem to incorporate your ideas into N770, N800, N810  
> (not smartphones).
> Darius
> monteslu at cox.net wrote:
> local search will not talk to the GPS unit connected to a 770,800,or  
> 810.
> You can go to local.google.com and put in a location, then do  
> something like search for the nearest pizza point. Works great.
> Also some windows mobile and j2me phones/PDAs can download a google  
> maps app that talks to the gps device.
> But what I'm talking about is a standard that any website can use  
> automatically by embedding something like into their page and  
> getting back a javascript object with the latitude & longitude info.
> Luis
> ---- Darius Jack wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > GPS-enabled search tool has been incorporated by Google under name  
> local search in last few years.
> > Ok. Voice search makes it a minor novelty.
> > Major problem is if What You Want is What You Get (service mark by  
> Darius) really works.
> > Internet is not more global village as paid indexing is what  
> generates more and more money.
> >
> >
> > To Allan.
> >
> > Do you have any items from MediaMoo, Microworlds, GNA at your MIT  
> Museum ?
> >
> > Darius
> >
> >
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Allan Doyle
Director of Technology
MIT Museum

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