[maemo-users] Amrok (was Re: Media Player Syncing) (was Re: Adobe Media Player...)

From: Tim tim at samoff.com
Date: Thu Apr 19 15:43:34 EEST 2007
Amrok is flipping sweet. Yeah, something like that! ;)
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 ----- Original Message -----
 Subject: Re: Media Player Syncing (was Re: Adobe Media Player...)
 From:  Tim 
 To: "maemo-users-request at maemo.org" 
 Date: 04/19/2007 6:37 am
 Your arguments are great -- a few of which I thought of myself. I
will have to check into Amrok and Juk... I am not very familiar with
the plethora of Linux apps that are out there.
 As for the the closed-source issue... I am an open source advocate
myself (I guess I wouldn't have an N800 if I wasn't!). But, going too
far is to say that people like Earthlink (feather.net), Gizmo, and
Rhapsody (among others) shouldn't be allowed to create apps for the
IT. I'm not saying that Nokia should go the closed-source route (I'd
love to see everything remain open)... It's the partnering idea that
I'm arguing for (and it sounds like you are too).
 There are already some amazing applications available. (This
case-in-pont was recently made by the porter of Claws-mail.) Why
start from scratch each time?
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 Photography ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/timsamoff[3]
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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:39:56 -0400
 From: Mike Lococo 
 Subject: Media Player Syncing (was Re: Adobe Media Player...)
 To: maemo-users at maemo.org
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 >> ... attempt to make an "iTunes killer" of sorts... It would be so
 >> nice to have a media app on IT and computer that synced like
 >> iTunes does.
 > When I plug my 770 (or any USB-drive) into my computer with a 
 > recently-downloaded version of Winamp, Winamp asks if I want to 
 > manage media on it.
 Many apps can be used to sync file trees (that can contain media
 The tricky part is setting up playcount and metadata syncing.  What 
 iTunes/iPods do that's cool is:
 * Keep track of what you listen to and do cool stuff with it.  Find
 your favorite albums, suggest artists that you haven't listened to
 recently that are similar to what you're listening to now, etc.
 A lot of listening happens on your mobile device, and these stats
 get much more interesting if that data is available to the desktop
 * Allow you to fix broken metadata on your portable, and have those
 changes propagate to your desktop (and to other portables if you
 have them).
 Amarok and a number of Linux players do similar coolness with 
 playcounts.  I'm not aware of a non-iTunes platform that offers
 syncing with a portable device, though (probably because control
 the desktop _and_ mobile software is required to implement).
 I'd rather see a partnership with the developers of Amarok or Juk
 with Adobe.  Creating a music player is hard to do well, and takes 
 sustained effort at fixing UI bugs.  Adobe is likely to create a
 client that kind of sucks (all music players suck at first) and will
 obsolesced when the N900 comes out.  The open teams are likely to
 a syncing standard that is implementable by other device
 and an open N-series client that will get better over time (after 
 sucking at first, of course).

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