[maemo-users] Repeat quetion : Diablo update to OS2008HE ? (Was: Software Choices for New Nokia 770?)

From: gary liquid liquid at gmail.com
Date: Tue Oct 28 21:35:17 EET 2008

>From the very first day I bought my tablet I knew I was on borrowed time.
Just the same as when I purchase a new desktop or laptop or car or phone.
Evolutions occur and hardware becomes old.

I have had my tablet now for 10 months, it remains valid and up to date and
I can do more with it now than the day I bought it.
People who purchased n800s have had a much longer lifespan, Nokia maintained
compatibility with the hardware when the n810 was released and even gave a
clockspeed boost to the 800.

In the same way that 770 owners still exist, the n8x0 series will continue
and people will still run applications on it, but I and most people queried
on this would not expect it to run every single brand new piece of code out
there at the same performance level as currently (if at all for some

If you go and have a look at the difference with the omap2 and the omap3,
you will understand there is a lot more that can be done with the new chips
and this opens up new avenues for development in all aspects.

Those new areas however do not mean what we have now simply ceases to exist,
and if done carefully even some new software can expand into the newer
hardware and simply perform better there whilst still maintaining
compatibility with the previous generation.

Shall we expect Nokia to simply cease development work and stop everything
because they have users of a current generation who can't use the newer
faster better way of doing something?
Should Sony have remained at the playstation1 level because they had a lot
of owners?

I personally can't wait for the upgrades, I think the omap3 and everything
that enables will make for a terrific experience and for me it cannot be
released soon enough.


On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Denis Dimick <dgdimick at gmail.com> wrote:

> While I don't own a 700 or an 800, I have an n810, I'm watching what Nokia
> does with these older models, are they going to require users upgrade the
> hardware to get new apps, or are they going to support the older hardware?
> If Nokia does not continue to support older hardware, I'm not sure Nokia
> going to get any more of my money. $400 for a n810 is a lot to shell out
> when you can buy a small laptop, Acer, Asus, etc. and have a system with
> just a tad larger footprint.
> Just my .02,
> Denis
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, gary liquid <liquid at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Fred,
>> From my perspective I'm not sure what would be blocking liqbase from
>> running on the 770.
>> I believe the only none standard things it uses are the XV library and the
>> XSP raw mouse information.
>> If you would like to run liqbase from the console and send me the output I
>> will be happy to give it a run through and see whats going on.
>> I will be happy to attempt to get it running on all Nokia maemo devices,
>> and hopefully it would be a minor tweak :)
>> Gary
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Fred Pacquier <fredp at dial.oleane.com>wrote:
>>> Ryan Abel a écrit :
>>> > On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Urivan Saaib wrote:
>>> >> I've been playing with Diablo on my n770 for several months. It has
>>> >> been
>>> >> fairly stable.
>>> >
>>> > No, you've been playing with Chinook. Diablo is not available for the
>>> > 770.
>>> Well, this is a question I've meant to ask Quim for a while now, so here
>>> is my opportunity. I've asked it here before without an answer, but some
>>> threads on ITT have brought it back to light recently.
>>> Despite the disparaging remarks by the Maemo team when OS2008HE came out
>>> ("end-of-the-line", "too much for the poor beast" etc.), quite a few
>>> people (including me) are satisfied with it breathing a new life into
>>> their old 770. Maemo Mapper in particular, a rare example of commitment
>>> to maintaining a native maemo app on all NIT platforms, works just fine
>>> on it.
>>> The problem we are having now is that some recent apps, or their Diablo
>>> upgrades, fail to install or run, although they could be really useful
>>> on a home-bound 770 : to name a few, Canola, Maemo remote (which also
>>> uses EFL), or liqbase...
>>> So, before the Fremantle wave definitely buries the 770 platform (and
>>> maybe the N8x0 too), it would be really good to see a final update
>>> bringing the main Diablo improvements to OS2008HE, so that it can still
>>> run the latest relevant apps.
>>> Is there any chance this will happen ?
>>> TIA,
>>> fp
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