[maemo-users] iPad

From: Mark wolfmane at gmail.com
Date: Thu Jan 28 19:27:18 EET 2010
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Kate Alhola <kate.alhola at nokia.com> wrote:
> ext Attila Csipa wrote:
>> On Thursday 28 January 2010 16:36:16 Mark wrote:
>>> The thing is, Maemo is only necessary on small devices with limited
>>> screen
>>> real estate and non-X86-compatible processors. In a tablet of the iPad's
>>> size, there's no reason not to use an Atom and full-blown desktop Linux.
>>> Mark
>> Finger based keyboardless input. That killed full-blown desktop Linux and
>> apps right there. In fact, that is one of , if not the most important reason
>> why the original TabletPC was a flop. I don't see any rationale in
>> (current-gen) embedded X86 if you want linux on it, either, but that's just
>> me (ARM is cheaper, is far more power efficient, allows always-on, and, with
>> A9-MPcores, *at least* on par performance-wise).
> I agree, the thing that has been reason why no tablet-PC has ever made
> any success was that they always were running desktop operating system,
> mostly Windows from original manufacturer.
> I had my first tablet PC, Dialogue Flybook several years ago. It came with
> Windows and of course I installed Linux to it immediately. Flybook
> was with touch screen twist display so that it was possible to twist as
> tablet.
> With desktop OS, stylus is just mouse replacement and not even good on that.
> Total use experience was nonexistent and device become just mini laptop
> To be usable as tablet, all UI need to be redesigned to be usable with
> finger.
> Maemo 5 is good example of excellent finger optimized UI. I have not used
> stylus
> at all.  It is no so much issue of screen real estate but how UI elements
> are designed.
> Many things work different way like no scroll bars but scrolling from
> content pane,
> UI elements must be enough large for finger, there is no right click, no
> <alt><ctrl>click etc
> It is not just issue of virtual keyboard.
> Taking desktop applications and desktop OS, you wont get any good user
> experience,
> just an other laptop where stylus is needed to be mouse replacement and user
> experience
> is worse than normal laptop. You will get lot of application with as bad uer
> experience.
> Kate

Fine, put a customized UI on top, but most if not all of that could be
solved with only a custom touchscreen driver, just like all the fancy
things you can do with Logitech's mouse/trackball drivers (not that I
ever install them any more). But it's VERY important to keep the
underlying OS a full desktop version, complete with *all* the apps in
the standard repositories with no porting necessary. Anything else
will result in a massive fail. That's Maemo's #1 failing: there are
too many little details required when porting, standard repositories
do NOT work, and the app base just isn't there. The Nokia ITs have
been out far longer than even the iPhone, and yet the apps number in
the few hundreds, compared with 100,000 iPhone apps and over 10,000
for Android even though it is by far the youngest.

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