[maemo-community] maemo-community Digest, Vol 24, Issue 7

[From: Jonas Hurrelmann]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:26:05 Dave Neary wrote:

> As was pointed out, the council idea was blogged, discussed in the wiki,
> announced on maemo.org, discussed on ITT - all in all, it would be
> surprising if someone following maemo would not have heard about it at all.
	
There was merely *one* blog post with the general idea of a council as far as 
I can tell. Everything else came *after* the process was (more or less) fixed.
And discussions on the wiki is just something that should be avoided in the 
future in my opinion (and reading other posts I am not alone with this).
With the community list things got better for that matter, as I would not 
expect every "community member" to be subscribed to the "maemo-devel" list and 
even read every post on it, especially if it is off-topic.

> You'll note that I specifically encouraged discussion on this topic when
> I took the task on the 12th of August. And in fact, the conditions for
> having a vote were changed subject to that discussion. So it's now a
> little rich to suggest that everything was "supposedly" fixed.

It was changed, but it has clearly been pointed out, that it was actually a 
"bit late", which I tend to agree. But this was mainly due to the time frame 
of less than a day from "semi final draft" to "action". Thus,

>  - Candidates should have 100 karma points as of tonight, 23:59. I can
> post the list of elligible candidates tomorrow.

does not sound like encouraging a thoughtful discussion, given that there was 
less than 10 hours to react.

> The point was that this initiative has been seen much farther than just
> within the Maemo community - so surely it's reasonable to expect that
> everyone within the community was aware of it?

This is not about the election itself. It is about the terms and rules. All 
the coverage came *after* the (final) terms had been announced.

My point is just, that the drafts should have been brought up to the planet in 
a timely manner and I hope the future council will do so with the next drafts 
to come. 

Best wishes,
Jonas