[maemo-community] Incorrect election title on voting page

[From: jussi.h.makinen at nokia.com]

>This point has been discussed fairly heavily in a number of 
>places (I can't be bothered to dig up links at the moment, 
>perhaps somebody else would mind doing so? :D), but my own 
>opinion is that you can't really be a part of a community 
>without being involved in it.

After some thinking, I fully agree. There's a difference between a user
and a community member. But the idea or possibility that users are not
just users, but members of a community is great and unique that I hope
that we can tell more to whoever considers buying the product that runs
on maemo software.  

Therefore I hope that the council, or the community together with us
would think ways on how to lower the barrier on getting users into
contributing community members. At the moment the barrier of getting
involved with maemo.org is higher than with ITT since benefits of
creating an account are more concrete. I don't want to create any "this
vs. that" situation with maemo.org and ITT, but just to say that
maemo.org needs to create a position also with the end-users that
everyone understands and agrees.        

' Jussi  

>-----Original Message-----
>From: maemo-community-bounces at maemo.org 
>[mailto:maemo-community-bounces at maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Ryan Abel
>Sent: 08 September, 2008 12:18
>To: List for community development
>Subject: Re: Incorrect election title on voting page
>
>On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:27 AM, <jussi.h.makinen at nokia.com> 
><jussi.h.makinen at nokia.com  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a important point. For me, the most important thing 
>is are the 
>> "end-users" part of this community or not? Are you member of 
>the Maemo 
>> community only if you are a maemo.org member?
>>
>> I think a user is a part of the Maemo community even if 
>he/she is only 
>> reading posts at ITT or tabletscene. Wheter they are then 
>contributing 
>> to the community is a different case.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
>This point has been discussed fairly heavily in a number of 
>places (I can't be bothered to dig up links at the moment, 
>perhaps somebody else would mind doing so? :D), but my own 
>opinion is that you can't really be a part of a community 
>without being involved in it. Some level of participation or 
>contribution is required. Simply signing up for an account and 
>never doing another thing does not make you a community 
>member. So, by default, uninvolved end-users aren't really 
>part of the community.
>
>This is why I think it's important to be specific about it 
>being a _maemo.org_ Community Council, because I see the 
>"Maemo Community" and the "maemo.org Community" as two 
>separate things. The maemo.org Community being a subset of the 
>larger Maemo Community, and not including things like itT and 
>Tablet Scene.
>
>If we say "Maemo Community" in the context of the maemo.org 
>Community Council, then excluding people who don't have a 
>maemo.org account (and, eventually, excluding people with less 
>than 25 karma) from voting doesn't make sense, which is where 
>the confusion arises for those disgruntled itT users.
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