[maemo-community] maemo.org team meeting Tuesday the 14th?

From: Andrew Flegg andrew at bleb.org
Date: Tue Sep 7 16:12:52 EEST 2010
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:16, Dave Neary <dneary at maemo.org> wrote:
> We haven't had a meeting like that since the last council election, and
> it's been missed. I agree with you that we need to change the way we do
> sprint meetings - I don't think that the staff should be setting their
> own goals, I think that the council/community should be setting them.

Not wanting to be totally unconstructive, but the community *did* set
priorities and then gave the staff ownership of those tasks to deliver
them. Nobody came back and said "can't do that" or "that's just

> But we need the way-points.

I seem to remember arguing for way-points and reporting and was argued
against. I *think* the arguments were that professionals could be
trusted, there were already multiple feedback mechanisms and so on.

I'm _not_ going to, effectively, waste a couple of hours of my time
dealing with a meeting in which a) not everyone turns up; b) we shrug
off the fact that something which "must" have been done wasn't. If
there isn't the effort (and, ultimately, respect) to provide a short
email ahead of time from each participant to save time being wasted,
we'll end up either in the situation where it goes back to a meeting
where people check things off a list (or don't) OR we go to a MeeGo
TSG-style meeting where decisions have to be taken there, but none of
the materials have been prepared or read ahead of time.

> For my part, I did not do any Maemo work in July, or most of August.
> July, I was working flat out on other projects, August I took 3 weeks
> vacation. Since returning from vacation, I've basically not done a lot
> of Maemo work either - keeping up with forums, and starting the ball
> rolling on elections, and pitching in (unbilled) for various MeeGo
> discussions.
> I am contracted for 50 hours a month (~1/4 time) until December, at
> which point it is looking like there will no longer be a budget (or,
> perhaps, a need) for my position.

OOI, although it's probably not relevant to this discussion (or -
indeed - any of my business) does your holiday get split across your
projects? In other words, your holiday cost 3/4 of a week (i.e. about
3.5 days) "Maemo" time. More a question for Tero to be concerned
about, but do _you_ think we are getting value for money for that 50
hours? Although 50 hours isn't much and can go like a flash :-(

>> How about, I'll attend - and support - a meeting, if everyone who's
>> responsible for a task from the Brainstorm comes forward, describes
>> the status of the committed tasks and gives a quick summary of what
>> they've been working on for the past few months.
> Brainstorm was about setting a 6 month agenda, not monthly way-points.
> I'm still missing a first planning meeting following on from the
> brainstorm, to be honest.

There was a Brainstorm review meeting (which, unfortunately, I
couldn't attend) which produced a set of committed tasks and relevant
owners. That was followed up by emails - to this list - requesting an
outline plan from each owner.

The first real communication on *anything* coming out of the
Brainstorm was Karsten's Bugzilla 3.4 email last week.

So, here's a a suggested agenda:

  1) Overview of current paid resources for maemo.org, and
     current thoughts on roadmap/future (Tero Kojo)
  2) Overview of Brainstorm roadmap progress[1] & current status:
       * Introduction (Community Council rep)
       * SSO (Tero/Niels)
       * Garage (Ferenc)
       * Packages & Downloads (Niels)
       * Bugzilla (Andre)
       * Wiki (Dave)
       * Planet & News (Henri)
       * Talk (Reggie)
  3) Next steps (Community Council rep)
  4) AOB

Is there anything else which should show up under "2"? The original
minutes[2] of the meeting said "planned Nemein work" which was never
clarified. If (2) contains status and progress, that should hopefully
include that.

Thoughts welcome.



[1] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2010-June/004345.html
[2] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2010-June/004335.html

Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew at bleb.org  |  http://www.bleb.org/
Maemo Community Council chair
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