[maemo-community] maemo.org team meeting Tuesday the 14th?
From: Andrew Flegg andrew at bleb.orgDate: Tue Sep 7 16:12:52 EEST 2010
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On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:16, Dave Neary <dneary at maemo.org> wrote: > > We haven't had a meeting like that since the last council election, and > it's been missed. I agree with you that we need to change the way we do > sprint meetings - I don't think that the staff should be setting their > own goals, I think that the council/community should be setting them. Not wanting to be totally unconstructive, but the community *did* set priorities and then gave the staff ownership of those tasks to deliver them. Nobody came back and said "can't do that" or "that's just crazy". > But we need the way-points. I seem to remember arguing for way-points and reporting and was argued against. I *think* the arguments were that professionals could be trusted, there were already multiple feedback mechanisms and so on. I'm _not_ going to, effectively, waste a couple of hours of my time dealing with a meeting in which a) not everyone turns up; b) we shrug off the fact that something which "must" have been done wasn't. If there isn't the effort (and, ultimately, respect) to provide a short email ahead of time from each participant to save time being wasted, we'll end up either in the situation where it goes back to a meeting where people check things off a list (or don't) OR we go to a MeeGo TSG-style meeting where decisions have to be taken there, but none of the materials have been prepared or read ahead of time. > For my part, I did not do any Maemo work in July, or most of August. > July, I was working flat out on other projects, August I took 3 weeks > vacation. Since returning from vacation, I've basically not done a lot > of Maemo work either - keeping up with forums, and starting the ball > rolling on elections, and pitching in (unbilled) for various MeeGo > discussions. > > I am contracted for 50 hours a month (~1/4 time) until December, at > which point it is looking like there will no longer be a budget (or, > perhaps, a need) for my position. OOI, although it's probably not relevant to this discussion (or - indeed - any of my business) does your holiday get split across your projects? In other words, your holiday cost 3/4 of a week (i.e. about 3.5 days) "Maemo" time. More a question for Tero to be concerned about, but do _you_ think we are getting value for money for that 50 hours? Although 50 hours isn't much and can go like a flash :-( >> How about, I'll attend - and support - a meeting, if everyone who's >> responsible for a task from the Brainstorm comes forward, describes >> the status of the committed tasks and gives a quick summary of what >> they've been working on for the past few months. > > Brainstorm was about setting a 6 month agenda, not monthly way-points. > I'm still missing a first planning meeting following on from the > brainstorm, to be honest. There was a Brainstorm review meeting (which, unfortunately, I couldn't attend) which produced a set of committed tasks and relevant owners. That was followed up by emails - to this list - requesting an outline plan from each owner. The first real communication on *anything* coming out of the Brainstorm was Karsten's Bugzilla 3.4 email last week. So, here's a a suggested agenda: 1) Overview of current paid resources for maemo.org, and current thoughts on roadmap/future (Tero Kojo) 2) Overview of Brainstorm roadmap progress[1] & current status: * Introduction (Community Council rep) * SSO (Tero/Niels) * Garage (Ferenc) * Packages & Downloads (Niels) * Bugzilla (Andre) * Wiki (Dave) * Planet & News (Henri) * Talk (Reggie) 3) Next steps (Community Council rep) 4) AOB Is there anything else which should show up under "2"? The original minutes[2] of the meeting said "planned Nemein work" which was never clarified. If (2) contains status and progress, that should hopefully include that. Thoughts welcome. Cheers, Andrew [1] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2010-June/004345.html [2] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2010-June/004335.html -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew at bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council chair
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