[maemo-community] Banners on maemo.org

[From: Sunny B]

Well, Jeremiah had the only negative comments.   I don't know what Maghreb
is, but military dictatorship is a bit of hyperbole. Since banners weren't
even invited before, and now they are (subject to some rules), the criticism
seems misplaced.  In any event, I've tried to utilize the constructive parts
and revised the rules to be as below.  They are intended to prevent the
website from being overrun with ads for fart apps and such.

   - Banner should be for a project with a clear and compelling purpose.
   - The purpose of project should be related to Maemo or a maemo device.
   - The project should maintain an online presence at maemo.org or own web
   site.
   - The project should be generally open source or open governance.
   - The banner should not violate any trademark or copyright.
   - The project agrees that posting a banner to support a project does not
   make maemo.org a sponsor or otherwise responsible for the project.
   - A maemo.org member in good standing must be designated as primary
   contact.
   - The project agrees to answer queries from Council regarding project.
   - All requests for banners (and objections) shall be directed to Council
   who shall determine whether the banner satisfies these rules and the length
   of time the banner will be posted.



On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Jeremiah C. Foster <
jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 03:17:49PM -0400, Sunny B wrote:
> > Council has decided to allow a limited number banners on maemo.org for
> > related projects.  There is already a banner for the 2011 Coding
> > Competition.  A banner has been prepared for the Cordia project.  And
> > council has approved the Community SSU for a third banner, although a
> banner
> > has not yet been submitted for review.  The following set of rules are
> > proposed to serve as guidance for those who might consider submitting a
> > banner to maemo.org in the future.  Constructive comments on the rules
> are
> > requested.
> >
> >    - Banner must be for a project with a clear and compelling purpose.
>
>      How are you defining "compelling"? This seems like it will be easily
> misunderstood.
>

We are not defining "compelling".  We'll leave that to the dictionary.

>
> >    - The purpose of project must be related to Maemo or a maemo device.
> >    - The project must maintain an online presence at maemo.org or own
> web
> >    site.
> >    - The project must be generally open source or open governance.
>
>      "Generally"? Don't you mean "specifically"? What are you trying to
> avoid,
>     banning an app that requires paid support?
>

No.  Even Maemo itself is not completely and specifically open source.

>
> >    - The banner must not violate any trademark or copyright.
>
>     You'll never be able to know for sure. You can only check if it has
> appropriate
>     copyright attribution and assume it is correct. (Plausible deniability
> is what
>     Maemo needs if there copyright claims against something you thought was
> okay.)
>

Granted, you'll not know for sure.  But this is to make explicit the policy
on such matters.

>
> >    - The project agrees that maemo.org incurs no responsibility by
> posting
> >    banner.
>
>      How on earth are you going to absolve yourselves of responsibility for
>     posting the banner? In some European countries its been proposed that
> bloggers
>     register with the government. What makes you think that the council or
> those
>     in charge of maemo.org won't be responsible for what they post on
> their web site?
>

 Rules are amended to clarify that posting a banner does not imply
responsibility *for the project*.

>
> >    - A maemo.org member in good standing must be designated as primary
> >    contact.
> >    - The project agrees to answer queries from Council regarding project.
> >    - Banner may be removed at any time and for any reason by Council.
>
>      So the council can remove anything they want, without supplying a
> reason,
>     but bears no responsibility?
>
> The rules don't say a reason doesn't have to be supplied.  And yes Council
is responsible for banner decisions.  The webmasters don't want to be (and
shouldn't be) in the position of deciding which banners get posted and for
how long.


>     Really?
>
>     This sounds like military dictatorship in the Maghreb.
>

Lighten up.

>
>     Regards,
>
> Jeremiah
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