[maemo-community] Harmattan & Maemo Community

[From: Sunny B]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:15, Cosimo Kroll <zehjotkah at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Just wait a little bit... ;)
>
> I'm not sure this teasing is helpful. If you know something (like
> Ville inevitably does), you should either helpfully hint around the
> limits of what you can discuss; or be quiet about it.
>
> As Ville asks, what *kind* of things could be revealed as part of a
> Nokia device announcement which would affect whether meego.com,
> maemo.org, somewhere else or a mess between them is the place to
> discuss a Harmattan platform?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>

Hi all,

Thanks for the discussion.  To answer the initial question, t.m.o. and maemo
community lists will remain open for discussions of Harmattan, if for no
other reason that maemo.org is an open community and we let people discuss
things as they wish here.  Certainly, there are discussions which are more
off-topic than Harmattan.  This is not to say that Council will be passive,
and might not make some changes in an attempt to keep the community vibrant
in view of the challenges that we know lie ahead.

As to Ville's request for information considered relevant, I can answer for
myself at this time, and with the advice that this topic (and others!) is to
be discussed by Council at the Conference, probably some time late on
Sunday:

1)  Clarification of the SW Architecture - Is it Meego Core OS with a Nokia
custom UI or UX on top?  QGil has said MeeGo APIs, but now Dave Neary says
some legacy Maemo APIs (in addition?).
2)  To what extent is the Nokia custom part open source?
3)  MeeGo compliance
4)  To what extent is the Harmattan custom UI or UX familiar to users of
Maemo5 or Maemo 4.1?
5)  To what extent will developers of Maemo5 and Maemo 4.1 apps be
comfortable with Harmattan and find it a "natural" extension.

Although it was not asked, another important component to the reception of
Harmattan at maemo.org is, I hate to say it, Nokia's overture (or lack
thereof) to maemo.org.  They could be cooperative or not, and that does
still matter.

I agree with Andrew that the thing is a mess.  I think that's beyond the
control of maemo.org.  Perhaps we can try to clarify things through
discussions with MeeGo people - core Meego OS goes to meego.com and
Harmattan UI and UX are with maemo.org or something more strained than
that.  But the division is admittedly not good - we'll have to see.  I hope
we get some clarity at the conference.

Rob
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