[maemo-community] maemocommunity.org? [was: Re: Maemo Elections - Extended]

[From: Reggie Suplido]

I'm splitting this to a new thread so this can be discussed more.

As with Andrew and Quim, I would like to know who is the "we" that are
planning to create a new "maemocommunity.org" site. Where is the original
discussion on the proposed plans. Please share the details and if possible.

Thanks.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM, robert bauer <nybauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
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>> On 04/02/2012 01:07 AM, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 April 2012 04:58, Sunny B<sunnyb7532 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have already started plans to centralize open source parts of the
>>>> community at www.maemocommunity.org.
>>>>
>>>
>> Why the need to create a new Maemo site - in 2012? Apart from paying the
>> maintenance bill, Nokia is not doing anything at maemo.org. The cost is
>> mainly the extras/downloads part, which is something not trivial (neither
>> cheap) to replicate elsewhere.
>>
>> What is the reason in moving away from maemo.org?
>>
> There are several reasons - the last reason for many of the developers is
> that there are projects and software being developed which are being
> hindered by the lack of cooperation we are getting from Nokia/Nemein.  For
> example, we have a long list of fremantle packages to be promoted and the
> blocker is Nokia/Nemein.  Extras downloads does us little good if packages
> can't get into extras.  The problem is serious - we can't even get replies
> to our emails.  If you can help, we would be very appreciative.  There is
> also generally the possible sunset of maemo.org at the end of the year
> and that the open source parts of the community have learned it is unwise
> to let its future depend on other entities.
>
>
>
>> And still... maemo.org has in place many elements that other projects
>> would wish to have. With some perspective I believe the problem is to
>> define a project around a brand in a time and industry when brands can be
>> so volatile.
>
>
> Agreed that there are many elements that we want, except
> maybe for garage.  We have had some discussions already that you apparently
> don't know about.
>
>
>
>>
>> If I would change anything in maemo.org I would go in the direction of
>> widening the scope to "mobile + open + Linux", keeping the current angle on
>> Nokia products but opening explicitly to other targets - making them feel
>> home.
>
> We cannot make that change at maemo.org, and so we have another answer to
> your initial question.   ;-0
>
>
>
>> Then the infra behind http://apps.formeego.org is almost the best kept
>> secret in the "mobile + open + Linux" community. Some connection would be
>> beneficial for everybody.
>>
> It's not a secret to us (but the governance is).  Do you remember when I
> cautioned about that fragmentation in the first place?  Well, we asked
> Niels/Matti Airas to explain a proposal to combine harmattan and maemo.orgmonths ago and have received no response.  What do you do in such a
> situation?  Let another person's inactivity stifle your own activity? So we
> started plans to move on in large part because we have no other option.  If
> a connection can be made, then good.
>
>
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