[maemo-community] Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

[From: Niel Nielsen]

understood Mate, never considered you an enemy, sorry if that wasnt clear
in that mail. I have always respected you a lot :)

/Niel

On Monday, November 12, 2012, Arie Mark wrote:

> Neil I was never an enemy, I have always respected council and what they
> have done, especially during your term. No one has done more damage to the
> council name than Estel. Did he deserve a community device yes, did he act
> childish afterwards, yes. I want to publicly state some old maemo users
> asked me to run so Estel didn't get voted into council but sadly he did. We
> dug our graves and now we can lay in it. Please ban Estel from the mailing
> list or at the very least limit him from number of mails he can send to the
> Mailing list daily. I want Estel to stay around. The old Estel, not the
> current one.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Niel Nielsen <nieldk at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nieldk at gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> While you are right about that IP not for certainty belongs to the same
> router (btw its called dynamic IP), it could hold as evidence anyway.
> 1 it is very - very - unlikely that the IP would be dynamically assigned
> to another router, which would then connect to Maemo.
> 2 despite ISPs  being assigned dynamically, very likely the same router
> would keep the IP, even for years
> 3 might not even be dynamic, X can sign up (pay) to be guaranteed a static
> IP (this would actually just be a reserved, dynamic IP)
>
> It is sad to read this trolling, inconstructive, critisism of working
> council, Estel, is your goal to dismentle the community? Even a previous
> 'enemy' of mine (no worries Arie, no worries, you had some valid critism)
> is going against you Estel. I think you, even off council, would help and
> get more benefits, from assisting in the hard times confronting the
> community et al.
>
> /Niel
>
> On Monday, November 12, 2012, Ilya Skriblovsky wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just want to add some fresh opinion to this horrible flame. It's "fresh"
>> because I don't really know the background: I don't know why Estel was
>> banned and why it is so opposite to the Council.
>> (Though I'm subscribed to this list, I'm rare reading it further subject
>> line because starting with Community Awards discussion in June, 95% of
>> mails here are full of flame and lacking of any constructive).
>>
>> But this situation seems very ugly to me. Screenshot with blurred IP
>> addresses is certainly not an evidence at all. If screenshot was with exact
>> IP match as Mohammad said, then I miss the point for blurring other IPs.
>> If all blurred IPs are the same and same with Estel's, please publish
>> original screenshot. If they differ — please remove the ban, admit your
>> mistake and stop this shame.
>>
>> (By the way, even if all IPs are the same, it is not 100% evidence of
>> identity of these accounts since if mentioned Polish network provides
>> variable IP addresses, it's not a wonder if several IPs will accidentally
>> match somewhen. Deep login history research is the only way to be 100%
>> sure.)
>>
>> Yours,
>> Mitrandir
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/12 twilight312 at gmail.com <twilight312 at gmail.com>
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido <
>>> reggie at internettablettalk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof:
>>> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png
>>>
>>> Another thing about this pathetic incident - I see few other names
>>> listed there. While "Letsee" was my account - that I have never concealed
>>> in any way, signing posts from there as "/Estel" - there is also *
>>> aquamarine*.
>>>
>>> Who is that person and what happened with this account? Was it banned in
>>> Reggie's madness too? Have this person tried to contact TMO admins, or just
>>> gave up on Maemo, after being treaten like that?
>>>
>>> /Estel
>>>
>>>
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