[maemo-community] Last Call for Council Nominations And Bylaw Review

[From: robert bauer]

It's beginning to look like there won't be enough candidates for maemo
council.  In that case, the council election gets extended a month.
Mandating council as part of the nonprofit governance may then become a
moot issue.  Note that council or other similar body can still be put in
place at the nonprofit later on.

We should move past this.  The real issue is the number of bodies willing
to volunteer and the skills they can bring (which btw those w/ skills other
than software dev are needed as well).

Rob

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:43 AM, twilight312 at gmail.com <
twilight312 at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
> On czw 27 wrz 2012 12:34:53 CEST, Lucas Maneos <maemo at subs.maneos.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:42:44AM +0200, twilight312 at gmail.com wrote:
> > > Personally, I see lack of candidates for Maemo Council as obvious
> > > thing - after all, we're going to have Board of Directors, which, for
> > > all intents and purposes, is Council with elevated permissions
> > > (powers).
> >
> > It shouldn't be that at all.  The board's duty is to run the
> > organisation, obtain and manage funding, manage the maemo.org handover,
> > make agreements for hosting and other services etc.  Even if they want
> > to, they probably won't have much time to deal with day-to-day community
> > things.
> >
> > > That part is OK, and I'm not criticizing it. What I'm sceptical about,
> > > is keeping Council at all - as separate, strange, powerless
> > > "something".
> >
> > It was always powerless ;-)  The Council's mission is to "represent the
> > Maemo community's best interests, and to act as a community conduit for
> > Nokia-generated information"[1].  Just s/Nokia/Hildon Foundation/ when
> > Nokia walks away.
> >
> > L.
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council
>
> Sure, that's they theory. Yet, in practice, we had ~240 people voting
> during last election, and probably, something like ~100 this time.
>
> In such situation, do You really think, that we need 5 person body to
> represent Community interest to Board of Directors?
>
> Well, considering, how Hildon Foundation is created, it's quite natural,
> that BoD is representing Community (Hildon's Foundation Community), and
> there is no need for middle-man, unless we want to create "positions" just
> for the sake of it. It's the thing, that count for 0 candidates for
> Council, in my opinion. After all, we have candidates for BoD (only two as
> for now, but still).
>
> BTW, I'm aware that Council was "powerless" always - again, in theory.
> Practice - including handover of infrastructure, that is currently ongoing,
> and maintained by Council - is quite different thing. And, to make things
> clear - as by "powerless", I mean influence on Maemo, at all - not some
> "powergames", etc. It's just that current "powers" (aka representing
> Community) goes naturaly and seamlesly into BoD.
>
> /Estel
>
>
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