[maemo-developers] Localhost unavailable when wi-fi offline or not connected

[From: Antonio Gomes]

allan,

what minimo maemo port version are you running ?

On 5/2/07, Allan Doyle <afdoyle at mit.edu> wrote:
> On May 2, 2007, at 11:26, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:
>
> > Hmm, yes, same discussion – thanks.  Unfortunately that thread just
> > faded out with no real solution for how to connect to running
> > server on N800 when offline.   One suggestion 'rewrite the
> > application'  definitely not an option (especially as I've spent
> > two months porting it to N800…).
> >
> >
> > mfc
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Antonio Gomes [mailto:tonikitoo at gmail.com]
> >
> >
> > maybe same discussion at http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-
> > developers/2007-February/007762.html ?
> >
> > On 5/1/07, Mike Cowlishaw <mfc at acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I have a Wiki running on my N800 using the usual configuration
> > (for many
> > applications) of a TCP/IP server running on the local host address
> > (127.0.0.1) and an TCP/IP client on the same device.  (In this case
> > an HTTP
> > web server and the Opera browser.)
> >
> > While trying to test this on an aeroplane at the weekend -- with Wi-Fi
> > offline, of course -- the browser would not connect to the server.
> > I've
> > since experimented further and find a similar (or the same) problem
> > occurs
> > online if no Wi-Fi connection is active.
> >
> > This is a showstopper for my application as it means I cannot
> > easily view my
> > data unless online and connected -- is there a fix/workaround?
> >
> > Thanks -- mfc
>
> It's pretty clear that there is a class of applications that needs to
> have a browser run against an on-board server even in places where
> it's not possible or not desirable to connect to an actual network.
>
> For my purposes, I'd be happy with any solution that either
>
> 1) Provides something similar to the old DUMMY IAP hack
>
> 2) Allows me to configure Opera for offline use. There's actually a
> setting in opera.ini that's tantalizing - "Offline Mode=0" - but no
> matter what I do it does not seem to change Opera's behavior.
>
> 3) Uses a non-Opera browser, e.g. Minimo. I found a copy of Minimo
> that sort of runs on ITOS2007 but I couldn't get it working enough
> for what I need to do. (And, since then, I lost track of where I
> found it in the first place). The ITOS2006 compatible Minimo was fine
> in offline mode but needed too much memory.
>
> The pattern of "on-board HTTP server + local web pages" makes a
> really powerful application development environment. I'm using
> Python's BaseHTTPServer class to build a local server and Javascript/
> AJAX web pages to build the user interface. The beauty of this
> paradigm is that you can use tools like Firefox's Firebug on a laptop/
> desktop system to build the UI, even while talking to the server on
> the tablet. And, of course, it's possible to run the Python server
> code on a laptop/desktop as well.
>
> I'd like to encourage the people who are able to do so to actually
> pursue each of the options above. I'm not well-versed enough in Maemo
> development to help with any of the three but I'll sure put them to
> good use!

-- 
--Antonio Gomes