[maemo-developers] Hello Maemo - CFSONID 2008

From: Darius Jack dariusjack2006 at yahoo.ie
Date: Fri Jun 6 14:44:53 EEST 2008
Hi Quim,

you said
"
In addition to this, Nokia expects to make a sustainable/profitable
business around the maemo platform and compatible devices.
"
Exactly, so there is no other way to solve that problem not hurting developers
but to enter into
the Global Alliance on Free Software/ Open Source Free Software 
New Global Open Source Alliance
by corporations, developers, IP protection international organizations, patent offices (USPTO, European  Patent Office ...), Free Software Foundation, Microsoft, TomTom, Apple and Linux giants as well as others
to discuss nd find the solution 
to have both corporate's and developer's business protected
and have developer's IPs protected anyway.

Nokia's corporate business is not exactly the business of developers working for free
to let Nokia make business and generate profit.

Maemo is to much about poetry, philosophy and business strategies.

I remember, when I asked for the first time, who stayed for maemo.org
Nobody was able to say - it was Nokia.

Today we have a new business model (subject to patent application or already patented).

Corporations setting up Internet communities, to have free workers working on projects set up by the corportions.
I joined another community of developers and some guys come from a business corporation, developing the same project/s and some get founding from other organizations too.

It's not bad as long as everyone is fully aware of his/her role and knows business terms in advance, before joining in.
Working for free is not bad idea for students.
But working for free for businesses to make final market product is really special idea
subject to urgent discussion.

One questions should be answered.
Do developers need Nokia to develop their open soruce free software
or does Nokia need developers to develop maemo platform commercial product.

Global Alliance on Open Source Software
forum is open, you are free to read, post, join, comment, send your proposals

Group email
  
  
  globalalliance4u at googlegroups.com
  
phone (+48) 886 424 624 

Darius
Global Alliance on Open Source Software
http://groups.google.com/group/globalalliance4u?hl=en



--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
From: Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com>
Subject: Re: Hello Maemo - CFSONID 2008
To: "ext Kees Jongenburger" <kees.jongenburger at gmail.com>
Cc: "ext Robert Schuster" <theBohemian at gmx.net>, maemo-developers at maemo.org
Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 1:01 PM

ext Kees Jongenburger wrote:
> The community itself is not organized in "what can we do to achieve
xyz".
> they and I expect zyx to be maemo.org. They might even think : if
> maemo.org behaves like xyz
> THEY would be doing the right thing. it is not exactly easy to
> currently do anything for maemo.org
> (rember the bus where you are not the driver?). Are we missing a
> strong community leader?

There is something missing, but I think it is more a matter of common
understanding.

It would be silly from Nokia's side to push business reasons in the
maemo project without considering a sustainable approach to the free
software community needs.

But it is not much more clever from the community side to push software
freedom reasons without considering a sustainable approach to the
business company needs.

maemo is expected by some people to be 100% free, and this is a fair and
challenging goal.

maemo is also expected by some people to beat the competition so the
coolest OSS developers decide to invest their time, skills and attention
in this project - which is also a fair and challenging goal.

In addition to this, Nokia expects to make a sustainable/profitable
business around the maemo platform and compatible devices.

It is perhaps just a coincidence that those betting on 100% of software
freedom as a guarantee of commercial success are not the ones making the
big investment hiring a team and shipping devices. It's always easier to
say "change your business" when you have no money invested in it.

So please, relax and try to understand also the other side. Nokia is
betting more in open source today than yesterday, and tomorrow more than
today. Glacial speed? Depends how you look at it. A lot has been done
between the 770 launch 3 years ago and today, even in terms of open
source strategy.

Unsatisfied about the speed and/or about the lack of a 100% freedom
software delivered by Nokia? You can provide the speed and full scope
yourselves, asking Nokia to remove any obstacles in your way. In the
meantime we will keep trying shipping software, development platform and
devices exciting not only the open source community but many more people
out there. In fact you also want us to do so.

-- 
Quim Gil
marketing manager, open source
maemo software @ Nokia
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