[maemo-developers] maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community Council

[From: Allen Brown]

I think you will find that quarterly elections are too frequent.
Everyone will burn out on voting.  Yearly or by halves.
-- 
Allen Brown
http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown

> Hey guys,
> So Maemo, as we all feel has enormous potential and we all feel
> investment in making things work out for the best.  So instead of each
> taking a side, why not find a better solution than what people are
> envisioning from a position of separation.  Because obviously there
> are pros and cons to both scenarios.  Direction given by passionate
> members can help steer things in the right direction or stifle it (a
> la gimp).  And sometimes mob rule is horrible because there is no room
> to innovate outside people's expectations.  So obviously you are both
> right here.  Please don't bicker on the list, it brings the
> conversation lower and turns a thread into a flame.  I try to read all
> of these mails and I prefer when things are in the positive.  That's
> what keeps me motivated and everyone motivated to contribute.  Keeping
> up morale is a big deal, especially in the floss world.  What about a
> democratically elected council that is renewed every quarter?  Or
> using a "flex/flow" organizational model like holacracy as I has put
> forth for recommendation?  I think roles are very important, and they
> keep people focused and in the right kind of relationship with each
> other.  I like the idea of a dynamic social network of passionate
> contributors, how can we create that?
>
> It's important to think about the "picture" of the future because then
> we can all contribute to that picture.  So why not paint the most
> incredible thing we can envision and find out how to get there?
> That's how scenario planners and futurists work with corporations.
> And I think we can all recognize great products that come out of great
> teams, and usually those teams are formed by a common context and
> vision.
>
> Can't we all just get along? ;)
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Darius Jack <dariusjack2006 at yahoo.ie>
> wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> you are completely wrong.
>> I always and ever speak for myself.
>>
>> "
>>
>> he wants to speak for them all
>> "
>> NO NO NO
>> (see above)
>>
>> There is a serious problem at maemo, as some guys from maemo
>> don't need any community, any open discussion, any collaboration.
>> What they need is power.
>>
>> Yesterday one guy from maemo said
>> "communities need moderators"
>> .
>> Open free source software developers don't need moderators.
>> What I develop and test is multitouch solutions, gesture recognition,
>> new user-computer interfaces and the like.
>> There is no place at maemo for such work, solutions.
>> I tried to subscribe to developers section at Maemo 3 times
>> and 3 times server generated nothing what could let me in.
>> So I gave up, still working at some other places.
>> I don't need moderators from maemo to control what I
>>  should work on.
>>
>> Managing Multimedia Magazines at Google
>> I don't need third party moderators
>> as it's me who can hold a position of a moderator.
>>
>> Fight for leadership at Maemo is what kills Maemo
>> and any idea of Nokia to have Maemo to work
>> for the benefit of Nokia.
>>
>> Get real man, there are hundreds of hot places globe-wide,
>> you an develop your ideas, projects, solutions in nice
>> association, no moderators, full democracy
>> and you an still say NO for Maemo Community Council
>> not hurting anyone.
>>
>>
>> Darius
>> http://groups.google.com/group/metallica4you/web/magazines?hl=en
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 13/6/08, ed at okerson.com <ed at okerson.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: ed at okerson.com <ed at okerson.com>
>> Subject: RE: maemo.org community leadership - the maemo.org Community
>> Council
>> To: maemo-developers at maemo.org
>> Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 9:18 PM
>>
>>>> Any activities by communities financed, sponsored, donated by Nokia
>>>> or other corporations, must follow the basic goal of the corporation.
>>>
>>> In general yes, and here the community adds value to Nokia. So there
>>> should be no problem unless this is all simply a rant against
>>> Nokia/commercial use of Linux, and in fact you had no intention of
>>> giving any useful input to the questions that were posed?
>>
>> This does in fact appear to be a rant from Darius Jack.  I have not
>> found
>> any references to anything he has contributed to any open source
>> community, yet he wants to speak for them all.  The relationship between
>> commercial entities and the open source community has been explained to
>> him more than once, but he does not care to understand.  Time to flip
>> the
>> bozo bit.
>>
>> Ed
>>  Okerson
>>
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