[maemo-developers] QA process = bug fixing disincentive?

[From: Kees Jongenburger]

Hi Andrew and Atilla,

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Attila Csipa <maemo at csipa.in.rs> wrote:
> On Saturday 31 October 2009 19:43:40 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> After working 'til stupid o'clock last night on a new version of Hermes,
>> today someone's found a bug which'll impact a small number of people. The
>> fix is trivial.
>> However, I find myself *not* wanting to fix it as it'll need to go through
>> another round of testing.
>
> There is a definitely a conflict there. I support Jeremiah's suggestion that
> minor packaging/typo fixes that do not alter app functionality (e.g. when you
> go from 1.0-maemo0 to 1.0-maemo1) should not reset app karma. Should require
> some discipline so people would not abuse this, but still better than forcing
> releases to be spaced 10+ days no matter how large the changes or how simple
> the fix.

I fully agree there is a conflict of interest but this gets an event
more interesting problem when you scale up the numbers
imagine 100 app updates on 1.000.000 users on one day. At that point I
start not care anymore about the pain the developer has to go throe to
get is apps delivered. I don't care about the carma. I care about the
users who will get this update. Carma is out of the picture but still
you are pushing a "bugfree" fix to a lot of people and that might
benefit from testing.

Given the :extra-testing week-end" I wonder if the current chosen
scheme will scale up and how this can be improved. For the karma
problem I suggest that the extras testing karma is keps "as is" to
ensure testing happens but to find a solution for published apps otr
possibly even increase karma on republished apps because of "activity
and perseverance" ,

This all doesn't really solve the problem Andrew is facing:
-How will "security" updates be handled?(this is the same kind of
"small but required update")
-Can we use the extras-testing in a more end-user friendly manner
(asking the user on the device if he had problems).
-How do we scale up.

Greetings