[maemo-developers] Fwd: Why should it be so hard and should I even bother with Extras for fremantle?

[From: Jeremiah Foster]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com>
> Date: November 2, 2009 12:35:45 AM GMT+01:00
> To: Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org>
> Subject: Re: Why should it be so hard and should I even bother with  
> Extras for fremantle?
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 12:55, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:35, Graham Cobb <g+770 at cobb.uk.net> wrote:
>>> On Sunday 01 November 2009 10:22:00 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>>> 1) There will end up being a LOT of command line utilities.  Over  
>>> time I would
>>> expect a lot of debian utilities to be ported.  This will clutter  
>>> up the
>>> Application Manager with things of interest to a tiny number of  
>>> people.
>>>
>>> The medium term solution, I think, is to create a new category:  
>>> user/advanced
>>> or user/command-line.
>>
>> I don't like this. If I'm looking for a port forwarder, I'm going to
>> look in user/network and, as an advanced user, I'm going to be happy
>> with a pretty GUI app or the command-line socat.
>>
>> This is probably where we should start looking at introducing  
>> debtags?
>> So, for example, socat would be in user/network but have a tag,
>> 'command-line'. We can then even add a setting to Application Manager
>> to show/hide command-line applications.
>
> This makes lots of sense and has been shown to work, although not  
> every debian app has tags.
>>
>> This set-up then is an obvious first step on the wider use of  
>> debtags,
>> which will garner us essential experience in how best to use them. (I
>> believe it's important that if the user selects one category they see
>> one set of apps. I believe it's important that one app appears in one
>> category: otherwise the user might not be clear that they're
>> successfully navigating from one category to the next if they see the
>> same apps cropping up over and over again. I also believe that tags
>> could make authors lazy in correctly categorising their applications)
>
> Power users are often a huge help here because they can categorize  
> themselves as well.
>>
>> I've also got a vested interest as a maintainer of the vim port,
>
> Which I would tag as:  not::emacs modal::editor donot::use
>
> Jeremiah