[maemo-developers] Why should it be so hard and should I even bother with Extras for fremantle?

From: Benoît HERVIER khertan at khertan.net
Date: Mon Nov 2 07:47:38 EET 2009
Are you all kidding ? seriously ?

"The bug "Way too geeky to present to most users" should, IMHO be an
'extras user/*' criteria."

Does we need to come back to the old days where each user have his own
repository ? To be honest i ll be far away easier to do than the
actual one.

2009/11/2 Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com>:
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah at jeremiahfoster.com>
>> Date: November 2, 2009 12:35:45 AM GMT+01:00
>> To: Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org>
>> Subject: Re: Why should it be so hard and should I even bother with
>> Extras for fremantle?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 12:55, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:35, Graham Cobb <g+770 at cobb.uk.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 01 November 2009 10:22:00 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1) There will end up being a LOT of command line utilities.  Over
>>>> time I would
>>>> expect a lot of debian utilities to be ported.  This will clutter
>>>> up the
>>>> Application Manager with things of interest to a tiny number of
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> The medium term solution, I think, is to create a new category:
>>>> user/advanced
>>>> or user/command-line.
>>>
>>> I don't like this. If I'm looking for a port forwarder, I'm going to
>>> look in user/network and, as an advanced user, I'm going to be happy
>>> with a pretty GUI app or the command-line socat.
>>>
>>> This is probably where we should start looking at introducing
>>> debtags?
>>> So, for example, socat would be in user/network but have a tag,
>>> 'command-line'. We can then even add a setting to Application Manager
>>> to show/hide command-line applications.
>>
>> This makes lots of sense and has been shown to work, although not
>> every debian app has tags.
>>>
>>> This set-up then is an obvious first step on the wider use of
>>> debtags,
>>> which will garner us essential experience in how best to use them. (I
>>> believe it's important that if the user selects one category they see
>>> one set of apps. I believe it's important that one app appears in one
>>> category: otherwise the user might not be clear that they're
>>> successfully navigating from one category to the next if they see the
>>> same apps cropping up over and over again. I also believe that tags
>>> could make authors lazy in correctly categorising their applications)
>>
>> Power users are often a huge help here because they can categorize
>> themselves as well.
>>>
>>> I've also got a vested interest as a maintainer of the vim port,
>>
>> Which I would tag as:  not::emacs modal::editor donot::use
>>
>> Jeremiah
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