[maemo-developers] lost in extras-testing as a donkey in the mist

[From: Valerio Valerio]

Hey,

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Niels Breet <niels at maemo.org> wrote:

> On Mon, October 19, 2009 16:12, Attila Csipa wrote:
> > Foreword: I'm an extras-testing newbie, I went through
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing and hoped to push a simple script
> > (called 'mirror') to regular users (=extras). I did extras(-devel) stuff
> > for Diablo, but had a few things that oops-ed me here, so I'd like some
> > clarifications so I can leave my current 'I are baboon' state.
> >
> > a) what are the relations of extras-testing to nokia-applications
> > repositories ? My script depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra
> > which is there, and lcuk pointed out that it is listed to be missing
> > dependencies
> > (
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicat
> > ions_explicit_armel/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra/0.10.15-git180-0maem
> > o8+0m5/ ). To add my confusion there are even packages there that have
> > 'missing
> > dependencies' that depend purely on libc6 (
> >
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applicati
> > ons_explicit_armel/libspeex1/1.2~rc1-1maemo7+0m5/ ). So who is depending
> > on what here and who is supposed to provide/promote what ?
>
> Oops, this was a configuration mistake on my part. I didn't setup the
> links between the repositories for nokia-applications and device root
> filesystem.
>
> It should look a lot better for you now?
>
> > b) if there were failed dependencies, how did my upload/promotion to
> > extras-testing go through ? Or does that 'missing' mean something else ?
>
> This change was made last week, so that is when the issue was introduced.
>
> > c) there is no 'add application' link on
> > https://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/
> > and I can't select Maemo5 as the OS if try to add it from 'another' page
> > that has that link. Are apps going to be added automatically by the
> > promotion process, or do I need to apply/do something to get that option
> ?
>
> Applications which manage to reach Extras through the QA testing process
> automatically get an entrance in Maemo5 Downloads.
>
> >
> > d) Is there a coordinated way of getting testers for karma to promote to
> > extras ? I made an announcement thread on talk, but wasn't quite clear
> > about whether the once-planned tester group exists, do they get notified
> > automatically, or do I need to do something extra to request evaluation,
> > the wiki didn't quite make that clear for me.
> >
>
> This is where we need to work on. We have the basic technical framework in
> place, now the human part needs to be addressed. Testing of applications
> in the queue needs to be encouraged more. Maybe we can organize
> application test meetings, where a group of people come in and help
> testing applications.
>

Liked the idea, I think I gonna give a try to a testing marathon :).

Best regards,

-- 
Valério Valério
Maemo Community Council Chair

http://www.valeriovalerio.org


>
> Another problem we need to address is prevent that applications stay in
> the queue for too long without testing. I've proposed to create a group of
> well known and knowledgeable community members who can make an executive
> decision based on a strict list of technical requirements for a package.
> If X amount of them agree the app meets the criteria, promotion is
> unlocked for the developer.
>
> I would really like someone else to take up organizing the human part, so
> I can concentrate on the technical implementation of this all. There are
> only so many hours in a day :)
>
> > I'm sorry if this stuff has been addressed before, if it was, it slipped
> > under my radar and my google skills failed me. Hints, pointers welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Attila
>
> --
> Niels Breet
> maemo.org webmaster
>
>
>
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