[maemo-developers] Extras-testing improvements

From: b0unc3 b0unc3 at email.it
Date: Tue Mar 9 12:49:14 EET 2010
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Riku Voipio <riku.voipio at nokia.com> wrote:

> On 03/09/2010 01:04 AM, ext Attila Csipa wrote:
>
>> I hope Valerio won't mind me taking the initiative here, but I'd like once
>> again to underline the testing-squad is not the Spanish Inquisiton nor do
>> we
>> adhere to a dogma which makes testing procedures unchangeable (and we
>> certainly don't want to create/impose them without a general consent).
>> Many of
>> the problems brought up have been met before, are already known and have
>> been/are being worked on to make Extras-testing as painless as possible
>> (and
>> yes, I also personally have several packages in Extras-testing that make
>> me
>> curse at some of the current rules, so I know both sides of this
>> occasionally
>> painful story :). I invite everyone who has not alredy done so to take a
>> good
>> look at
>>
>
>  http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist/QA_Improvements
>>
>
> From what I see, the problem is mostly that there is not enough voters..
> Well, there are probably lots of more people who add extras-testing and even
> extras-devel to their devices and test random applications from there, but
> can't bother to vote the maemo.org website. I can see several reasons for
> this.
>
> 1) extras-testing voting is well hidden in maze of the website
> 2) Once you find the place, you get an ugly list (especially if viewed with
> n900):
> http://maemo.org/packages/repository/qa/fremantle_extras-testing/
> There is no correlation with packages you have actually installed on your
> n900, so you need to browse around to actually find what to vote for.
> 3) the website kicks you out randomly
>
> etc. no wonder we don't get many testers..
>
> If we want to insist on quality on 3rd party applications, we should start
> by having good UX design and QA on the maemo.org website too...
>
> But I think perhaps the website is the wrong place anyway. a
> "extras-testing-assistant" application in extras that allows you to
> add/remove
> extras-testing to application manager, shows a list of packages installed
> from extras-testing and gives you a chance to thumb up/down.
>

I'm completly agree. As far as I see many users testing an application (see
the response/thanks on t.m.o) but a very small group of this votes up/down.
I think having an application to help people who testing
rating/comment/whatever on a packaged would be more efficient and making the
test process goes up quickly, instead of require to go to the website,
looking for the package and so on.


>
> Oh, And I also suggest cutting down the requirement for _upgrades_. For
> upgrade, the test checklist should be:
>
> [ ] No regressions observed (everything that worked on previous version
> still works)
> [ ] New functionality/bugfixes work as advertised
>
> And cut down the delay to 5 days with 5 votes.
>
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