[maemo-users] 4.2007.38-2 available

From: James Sparenberg james at linuxrebel.org
Date: Fri Oct 5 00:51:20 EEST 2007
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 08:12:02 Fred C wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:36:10 -0700
> Thomas Leavitt <thomas at thomasleavitt.org> wrote:
> > What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux
> > system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the
> > updated packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing
> > to go through the work of a manual update?
> What I'm not understanding is the big rush to update for a few minor
> fixes, especially if there's the known potential of extra user overhead
> getting the update and apps all sorted out.   If it aint broke, ...

It was broke.  It tended to brick SD cards.  Want some?  They make fair guitar 
pics now.

> Or put another way, my Clinc's software runs over 1000 per year for
> updates and support.  A couple month's ago the released a major
> update/upgrade which I've still not installed.  It takes months to
> sort out the bugs in this sort of stuff, plus the staff has to be
> brought up to speed overnight.  So I'm sitting back and waiting for the
> dust to settle so when I do the install (10 stations), it's rock solid
> so I don't have to hassle of training the staff how do deal with a lot
> of kludge workarounds to get work done, or (worse case) data crash
> which would caase everything to come to a halt. I'm paying decent bucks
> (along with 30000 other clinics) for this update 'service', which I'm
> choosing to go slow on.  Ditto for the megabuck software running my
> dental cad/cam system.

Wow I have the luxury of running 4 data centers that I watch update 
themselves.  Note, none of them are windows.  I don't have the luxury of 
waiting for security updates etc.  That would be for me, suicide.  

> It's laughable that a bunch of whiner techno geeks fully  expect their
> newly released, reasonably functional, internet tablet to be provided
> with instant FREE updates tto match their every whim.  As far as I can
> tell (by clinical software standards), the OS that most of us are
> currently using is really a modestly stable early beta version of the
> final stable OS.

This is linux.  That's how we work, release early and often.  No one is 
complaining about the idea of the fix.  Just the way in which updates are 
managed.  It's how we work.  We not only complain we also discuss and solve.  
The whining you so fondly mention is for us a part of the process.  
Communication is the key.  
> We're the guinea pigs of this project/product,
> complete with a  significant segment of this user population who insist
> on running on their damn noisey treadmill all night, who then
> spend their days complaining about all the work they 'have' to do at
> night. It's seriously funny stuff guys...

I stopped being a guinea ping in 1996 when I removed my last MS install and 
went Unix/Linux.   I'm not at all a guinea pig now.  I lost guinea pig status 
because  I chose to be a partner in the development of the products future.  
I've already seen a number of changes made just because of others who chose 
to join in on this effort.  (Note, I need to contribute more, I know).  Once 
is  a guinea pig only if you allow yourself to be experimented on.  One is 
never the guinea pig if you are helping to run the experiment.


PS .... I'm finding a lot of things working much nicer in the new update 
beyond the documented updates.  Like tabs in the browser!  Then again I'm 
just glad I decided to wait recently.   I'd done a number of "fixes" that I 
unfixed and I needed a clean install almost did it the day before the 
release!  *whew*

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