[maemo-users] 4.2007.38-2 available

From: Gary Baribault gary at baribault.net
Date: Fri Oct 5 01:23:53 EEST 2007
I have to agree with you, I aided another poster to start thin 'whining'
thread, ut it's part of the development process .. I did this flash
because my machine needed a fresh start and it did wonders. I just wish
the OpenSSH was working!

Gary Baribault
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James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 08:12:02 Fred C wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:36:10 -0700
>> Thomas Leavitt <thomas at thomasleavitt.org> wrote:
>>> What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux
>>> system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the
>>> updated packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing
>>> to go through the work of a manual update?
>> What I'm not understanding is the big rush to update for a few minor
>> fixes, especially if there's the known potential of extra user overhead
>> getting the update and apps all sorted out.   If it aint broke, ...
> It was broke.  It tended to brick SD cards.  Want some?  They make fair guitar 
> pics now.
>> Or put another way, my Clinc's software runs over 1000 per year for
>> updates and support.  A couple month's ago the released a major
>> update/upgrade which I've still not installed.  It takes months to
>> sort out the bugs in this sort of stuff, plus the staff has to be
>> brought up to speed overnight.  So I'm sitting back and waiting for the
>> dust to settle so when I do the install (10 stations), it's rock solid
>> so I don't have to hassle of training the staff how do deal with a lot
>> of kludge workarounds to get work done, or (worse case) data crash
>> which would caase everything to come to a halt. I'm paying decent bucks
>> (along with 30000 other clinics) for this update 'service', which I'm
>> choosing to go slow on.  Ditto for the megabuck software running my
>> dental cad/cam system.
> Wow I have the luxury of running 4 data centers that I watch update 
> themselves.  Note, none of them are windows.  I don't have the luxury of 
> waiting for security updates etc.  That would be for me, suicide.  
>> It's laughable that a bunch of whiner techno geeks fully  expect their
>> newly released, reasonably functional, internet tablet to be provided
>> with instant FREE updates tto match their every whim.  As far as I can
>> tell (by clinical software standards), the OS that most of us are
>> currently using is really a modestly stable early beta version of the
>> final stable OS.
> This is linux.  That's how we work, release early and often.  No one is 
> complaining about the idea of the fix.  Just the way in which updates are 
> managed.  It's how we work.  We not only complain we also discuss and solve.  
> The whining you so fondly mention is for us a part of the process.  
> Communication is the key.  
>> We're the guinea pigs of this project/product,
>> complete with a  significant segment of this user population who insist
>> on running on their damn noisey treadmill all night, who then
>> spend their days complaining about all the work they 'have' to do at
>> night. It's seriously funny stuff guys...
> I stopped being a guinea ping in 1996 when I removed my last MS install and 
> went Unix/Linux.   I'm not at all a guinea pig now.  I lost guinea pig status 
> because  I chose to be a partner in the development of the products future.  
> I've already seen a number of changes made just because of others who chose 
> to join in on this effort.  (Note, I need to contribute more, I know).  Once 
> is  a guinea pig only if you allow yourself to be experimented on.  One is 
> never the guinea pig if you are helping to run the experiment.
> James
> PS .... I'm finding a lot of things working much nicer in the new update 
> beyond the documented updates.  Like tabs in the browser!  Then again I'm 
> just glad I decided to wait recently.   I'd done a number of "fixes" that I 
> unfixed and I needed a clean install almost did it the day before the 
> release!  *whew*
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