[maemo-users] Microb Versus Mozilla Fennec

[From: Aniello Del Sorbo]

Same feeling :)

--
Anidel

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Greene <atmasphere at atmasphere.net>
wrote:

> I have a feeling that my 915 subscriptions have something to do with
> the load issues.  ;)
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > That's weird,
> >
> > MicroB opens my Google Reader page with no issue at all, and is actually
> > quite fast.
> >
> > --
> > anidel
> >
> > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Greene <
> atmasphere at atmasphere.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I love the Fennec browser though it could clearly use less memory, be
> >> more stable and launch more quickly.  ;)
> >>
> >> It can actually render my Google Reader page which MicroB cannot ... I
> >> find it super responsive and hope we see it packaged in a future
> >> release.  What I understood from the original Ars piece on the topic
> >> was that they are pretty close relatives, but that Fennec benefits
> >> from a later code base which seems to really make quite the
> >> difference.
> >>
> >> For every day use though I am running MicroB as it is far more
> >> reliable at the moment.
> >>
> >> JG
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > ext John Holmblad wrote:
> >> >> All,
> >> >>
> >> >> for those who have not already seen the article whose url is:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html
> >> >>
> >> >> It provides a comparison of the performance of Microb versus Fennec
> on
> >> >> the N810. Fennec shows a ~6x speed improvement for javascript.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, the numbers of these automated tests are right. However, users
> >> > having used both browsers will probably agree that in terms of real
> user
> >> > experience as for today both are pretty similar, and even the Nokia
> >> > version is performing better in real use conditions. I'm talking about
> >> > my own experience and comments I've heard.
> >> >
> >> > What is your opinion? I'm sure both Nokia and Mozilla developers are
> >> > interested to know.
> >> >
> >> > Is someone lying? Not at all. It's just a matter of looking at the
> >> > details. The current MicroB engine was developed one year ago by Nokia
> >> > starting with a pre-alpha of the latest Gecko engine, the freshest
> code
> >> > available by then. The release under development done last Summer put
> a
> >> > Mozilla based browser at a level where nobody could before (including
> >> > the own Mozilla guys, who were happily surprised btw). Now Fennec is
> >> > shipping a most recent Gecko and of course putting both one by side
> you
> >> > get nowadays much better performance at engine level. How much
> MicroB's
> >> > open source code helped on that, I don't know but I guess it saved
> them
> >> > some work.
> >> >
> >> > But users don't deal with engines alone, you have the UI in between
> and
> >> > this is where the Mozilla browser in Chinook and Fennec differ most:
> the
> >> > first uses an own UI providing -as for today- much better performance
> >> > that XUL, a component that seems like needing more work before being
> >> > really fit in mobile devices. Are we going to keep this difference in
> >> > the future? Time we tell. Both teams have a lot of work to do anyway.
> >> >
> >> > But in fact the best part of this Mozilla browsers comparison is not
> the
> >> > numbers competition part but the human collaboration part. The Mozilla
> >> > and Nokia developers are collaborating and both projects are in sync.
> >> > The current development of the Mozilla browser for Diablo+1 is based
> >> > directly on the Gecko trunk and we are discussing ways of deepening
> the
> >> > collaboration, also at a community level. Imagine the wide community
> of
> >> > Firefox add-on developers targeting the maemo platform - that would be
> >> > fun.
> >> >
> >> > We are even having some common exercises of exploration, both sides
> >> > learning a lot i.e. Qt support -
> >> > http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/
> >> >
> >> > Conclusion: We are as happy as you seeing the performance progress
> done
> >> > by the Fennec project. We feel honored by them targeting our platform
> in
> >> > the first place. Nokia is doing the right thing with the Mozilla
> >> > development. Lots of potential for collaboration and cool stuff.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Quim Gil
> >> > marketing manager, open source
> >> > maemo software @ Nokia
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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