[maemo-users] Nokia device usage

From: John Holmblad jholmblad at acadiasecurenets.com
Date: Thu Mar 5 18:11:26 EET 2009

I have been meaning to look into rsync and based on your input I will do 
so to see if that solves the problem I had with file transfer back to 
my  laptop, which runs Windows Server 2000 in dual boot mode (the flip 
side of the dual boot config is RHEL).

Although the laptop os a ~10 year old IBM Thinkpad, The bluetooth is 
provisioned using a Kensington bluetooth 2.0 USB dongle. The software 
and drivers, although they are spec'd for Windows XP, seem to install 
just fine on Server 2000 without any apparent damage to the Windows 
registry. This software exposes  a very rich set of bluetooth service 
capabilities. In fact , I can, while the laptop  is tethered to  my 
mobile phone for cDMA/EVDO access to the Internet, also perform 
bluetooth file transfers to the n800 without killing off the 
Laptop<=>Mobile phone connection. I discovered this by accident.

I have to say that I was surprised and impressed to learn that the 
Bluetooth 2.1 specification is over 1400 pages and now that I see the 
range of capabilities that the Kensington Bluetooth software provides 
with a version 2.0 device,  I better understand why the spec is so lengthy.

In a way it surprises me how the addition of a small device like this (I 
don't recall paying much for it) has allowed me to extend the life of a 
~10 year old laptop, whose foremost virtue beyond its basic reliability 
was, is, and will always be, its keyboard. I just wish the batteries 
lasted as long as the rest of the hardware.

Best Regards,


John Holmblad

Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
> John,
>     for file transfer nothing beats rsync. It works like a charm on
> just about any platform, N8x0 included.
> julius
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, John Holmblad wrote:
>> Ognen,
>> thanks for sharing your perspective.
>> After several years I found an N800 app that provides real, practical,
>> weekly value to me . It is the multilist application. In fact, I even
>> considered selling N800's with this application preinstalled for end users.
>> I have tested Skype and it works but I normally use my mobile phone for
>> voice.
>> I have, when the need arose, done online banking using the N800/Diablo
>> www browser even though my bank's www site warns me that the browser is
>> not really compatible with its www site.
>> I have also tested the apps that provide IP TV feeds which seem to work
>> ok with DSL to the Internet. I have not tested these apps over CDMA/eVDO
>> bandwidth however. I suspect that they would be very jerky on EVDO but I
>> could be wrong.
>> I have also used clawsmail for email with some success although the
>> Clawsmail app interface is more complicated than it needs to be for
>> everyday use.
>> One really good thing about the IT is how easily it tethers via
>> bluetooth to my mobile phone which has CDMA/EVDO service.
>> Recently because I have started working with Python, I have had occasion
>> to perform file transfers from my Windows based PC's to the N800,
>> again, using bluetooth and it works very well. I have not yet had
>> success in moving files in the opposite direction but I believe that has
>> everything to do with Windows NTFS file permissions and nothing to do
>> with the Bluetooth stack in the N800.
>> I believe that, so far, the Internet Tablets have failed to provide a
>> sufficient "constellation of benefits" to motivate consumer or business
>> users toward the device at the offered price versus other products on
>> the market and, unfortunately, that performance-benefits/price gap seems
>> to be widening, not closing, at least here in the U.S.
>> I continue to believe that the IT is an excellent hw/sw platform
>> (perhaps even he best out there)  however, end users don't purchase
>> platforms, they purchase product value which, in the current economic
>> environment, becomes ever more critical in order to justify a product
>> purchase decision.
>> Best Regards,
>> John Holmblad
>>  Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>> Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am curious to find out what people use their Nokias for. If anyone
>>> could share their usage patterns, it would be appreciated.
>>> I bought an N800 thinking that it was a very cool gadget (which it seems
>>> to be). However, I am having trouble justifying the expense to myself,
>>> even after a year of owning the thing. Here is my list of complaints:
>>> It is too slow when browsing the net (compared to, for example, my Asus
>>> EEE or my laptop). Then I thought I would use it as a glorified GPS unit
>>> so I spent more money and bought a bluetooth GPS unit for it. However, I
>>> have never been able to make Maemo Mapper really act in a user-friendly
>>> way. First off, as soon as you touch the screen (even by accident), the
>>> lead disappears and you have to set it up again (here is the problem: I
>>> am driving and the unit shuts off the screen to conserve power - when I
>>> need the screen, I touch it but then I loose the lead and it can also
>>> zoom in on another portion of the map - naturally I don't have the
>>> freedom to play with the menus and re-set everything up since I am
>>> driving!). Maps are also an issue, if I decide to download too many zoom
>>> levels, the maps are too large and Maemo Mapper dies processing them.
>>> Next, I tried Canola: it looks very pretty but the user interface is
>>> puzzling to me. I have tried to tell it where to look for videos or
>>> music but it was impossible to actually do so. Making a playlist was
>>> also difficult for me. Thus, I gave up. Next, Skype: I have tried to
>>> have a phone call or two over wireless, but with mixed luck, sometimes
>>> too slow, sometimes alright.
>>> Finally, the usage I really bought the unit for was to connect to my
>>> lego mindstorms NXT unit via bluetooth and control it from the N800. I
>>> have yet to have success in pairing the devices (to be fair, the problem
>>> is probably with the NXT).
>>> So, all in all, what do people use their Nokias for and are they happy
>>> with the overall usability of the apps and their documentation? Or am I
>>> just being lazy and giving up easily? It seems to me, I would have been
>>> better off waiting for an Android based phone, for example.
>>> Thanks,
>>> OD
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