[maemo-community] Public Council meeting...

From: Tim tim at samoff.com
Date: Mon Jun 8 14:32:52 EEST 2009

 > I will try to answer these questions for myself in public as I don't
 > see why wait to x people on a channel

Thanks. But, the meeting was organized (and is happening) because many 
people in the community requested it.


Kees Jongenburger wrote:
> Hi,
> I will try to answer these questions for myself in public as I don't
> see why wait to x people on a channel
> trying to organize something.
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Tim<tim at samoff.com>  wrote:
>> ###
>> THEME: Communication
>> 1. What have we done wrong? (5 minutes)
> Not much (or did we not do much at all yet?). To be honest I don't
> think we can do much wrong
> as the tasks we are to do still are vague. so What did we do wrong? I
> think we (I) proposed my services without having a real clue what we
> where talking about :p. but that said being a council member is a
> motivation and a message to others that you are involved and ready to
> "to things". I want to represent the developers so I should ask the
> developers what they want. The truth is that nobody asked me to do
> this,
> no developer (once elected) contacted me about any issue so or they
> are happy or they don't give a d*mm :p
>> 2. What have we done right? (5 minutes)
> Having a council is a good step towards a maemo.org organization and I
> think that is where we should be heading.
>> 3. One place for all communication: Where? (<5 minutes)
>>     - Council blog
>>     - Council wiki
>>     - maemo-community mailing list (if integrated with tmo)
>>     - Council subforum on tmo
>>     - Other?
>> 4. Representing the Maemo Community (maemo.org)... (<10 minutes)
>>     - Take _every_ community "item" (request, complaint, etc.) into
>>       consideration?
> Well we could do something like that for the next election. a "item"
> tracker for things people care about.
> I am afraid that some parts of the community are more verbal(tmo) and
> are giving a twisted view of maemo.org and the council.
>>     - Community trusts Council to make assessments/decisions based on
>>       these "items"?
> Of course
>>     - "Items" brough to a Council-moderated "community meeting" so that
>>       community can decide?
> No way, we need some leadership here. Just like with elections you get
> to chose your favor when voting
> not every day.
>> 5. Representing Maemo SW (Nokia)... (5 minutes)
>>     - Is this actually helpful to the community?
>>     - Ideas on bettering inter-community communication about official
>>       correspondence?
>> 6. Tmo moderation: Should all Council members be forum moderators
>>    (i.e., Super Moderators)? (<5 minutes)
>> 7. Regular Maemo Community town hall meetings? (5 minutes)
>>     - At all?
>>     - Every month?
>>     - 6x/year? (Every other month)
>>     - Quarterly?
>> 8. Redefinition of Community Council (based on comments at tmo). (<10
>> minutes)
>>     - All Community Council oriented conversation will happen: Refer to
>>       question #3.
>>     - Facilitation: making sure that one portion of the community knows
>>       what is going on in another.
>>     - Refraining from IRC for Council business? (Aside from the
>>       possibility of moderating community meetings).
> I clearly missed some TMO stuff here and I really think this should be OK
> But I don't understand the point above..
>>     - Quims proposal:
>>               OPEN COMMUNICATION...
>>             * News and calls for participation are summarized in the
>>               Council blog (RSS).
>>             * Council micro-updates can be followed at [new thread to
>>               be created in this forum] (watch)
>>             * Council oriented conversation happens in the maemo.org
>>               Talk forum (archive) and the maemo-community mailing list
>>               (archive), in threads identified with the [Council] tag.
>>             * Also, Council members are usually present over IRC in
>>               #maemo, happy to chat with you.
>>     - Separation of Maemo Sprints and Council tasks.
> This last point is the hard one. Given the current history I think a
> council member should get the
> responsability of scrum-master. This is probably a time consuming task
> that I don't feel ready to
> spend my time on. Overall the person I thrust the most for that is
> currently is Quim and I would like him
> to put his community hat on. The only problem with that is that he is
> not a council memeber :P
> Greetings


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